Shermine Shahrivar
February 2017
22.03.2017 (Paris)
03.2017 (Munich and Leipzig)
4.04.2017
Warsaw, 12. 04. 2017
4.05.2017
11.05.2017
13.-15.05.2017, Bleiche Resort & Spa (not clear if twins and Shermine were there together and who exactly was there)
18.05.2017
Bill, Shermine and probably other friends (Holzmarkt 25, Berlin)
19.05.2017, Restaurant, Bild article
21.05.2017, Tiergarten, Berlin
28.05.2017
Tiergarten and Boros Bunker, Berlin
Ibiza, June 2017
Shermine Shahrivar is a model and was studying Acting at the Lee Strasburg Theatre and Film Institute in New York. She became Miss Germany in 2004 and Miss Europe in 2005. Shermine was born in Iran on 17th September 1982, when she was one year old, she moved with her family to Aachen in Germany. She studied political and social sciences in Duisburg.
Her relationships - Ralf Bauer, Thomas Kretschmann, Xavier Samuel, Markus Klosseck, Lapo Elkann. She made headlines because of her alleged liaison with Prince Albert of Monaco; Kanye West also rumored.
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Shermine and Ria at Miss Germany competition, 2004
Guys, I have some question for you and would love to know your opinion. It's about twins dogs. This is what I found.
"I read it's massive problem in California and the US in general. Lots of people get FAKE certficates so they can bring their dogs wherever they go without any valid reason, It's bc the law doesn't allow people to ask the owner more than is this dog traine for any disability and what can it perform. That's all, the owner doesn't have to show a legal certificate or anything else so that's why they have to deal with "epidemic of fake service dogs". Also, law doesn't demand the dogs to wear special vests but apparently, most of those fake dogs wear them because the owners are in fear somebody may doubt in their disabilities. This way noone dares to ask more questions. Service dogs and emotional support dogs are different thing and it's written on the vest. Service dogs are for serious mental disabilities, psychiatric issues."
"No equipment, vest, harness, special leash, ID card, “Do Not Pet Me” patches or anything else can make your dog a Service Dog unless you’re disabled and your dog has been specifically trained to perform tasks or work that you would otherwise have difficulty completing due to your disability. If all of that isn’t true, then it’s ILLEGAL."
Some companies are just selling fake certificates (all you need to do is pay $50-$200). The list of suspicious companies selling vests, ID cards & stuff for fake service dogs includes the one twins "registered" their dogs - it's SDCA. To pretend a dog is a service dog and you need it to function properly (while you don't) is a crime, a person can be fined or imprisoned. Plus, it hurts real service dogs' owners, people with disabilities and can lead to change of the law to make it more strict (which will obviously hurt those who really need them). "
There are sources:
http://servicedogcentral.org/content/fake-service-dog-credentials (Spotting Fake Certification/Registration/ID)
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0nqMfV3BjLv7HBZJp_Kn2OymTmSACkHvO60gk7W-sW7qj1-ox9tjDasVyOHl7UPjTzeJj8aJrygsBwi3MzuS1dJC04Y0NXS7wrmeWSrapj20Rb_EDtv6hVcCxgbEmIjwUS2WDJltHOAR8/s1600/12853345_1867182733533205_7051148840358903808_n.jpg
http://dogtime.com/trending/29963-speak-fight-service-dog-fraud
http://dogtime.com/dog-health/general/20325-advocacy-column-fake-service-dogs-are-a-shame-and-a-crime
https://www.anythingpawsable.com/fake-service-dog-complications/
https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/03/15/pretending-your-pet-service-animal-that-could-soon-illegal/Rs36mDVZ8mbSiPLVl89qLI/story.html
What do you think about the "nap" incident in THTV? They want to confuse us.
ReplyDeleteYes, they want confusion, this is one thing. The second thing is that, in my opinion, if it really was about something real and private, they wouldn't have shown it in TH TV. The scenes are chosen and cut so it's obvious they included this scene on purpose. Originally the scene could have been about nothing, about they usual "dirty jokes' they perform in TH TV, but it ended as "hint" for some people because they think Shermine was there with Tom. Of course guys know what they are doing and of course they know what fans think and what is happening in the fandom so :)
DeleteHi, your blog is great and I welcome this new Shermine thread.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if my comment really fits here, but it has to do with her anyway
I'm not into twc but I am fascinated by their twin bond which they mentioned so often by themselves.
However, since they are back in Berlin it seems that fans mostly see Bill without Tom. I don't buy the Shermine story, but somehow it's strange. I know that's normal that they don't spend 24/7 together, but in LA fans' pics nearly always show them together - walking the dogs, in the supermarket, in clubs, at lunch. So I suppose that there's something different in Berlin. Either one of them withdraws (maybe Tom, who was already embarrassed at the end of the tour when Bill rested his head on his legs) or there's somebody they hide.
After Bill's selfie I analysed the cars and obviously there are two different ones.
He sat in the backseat of car 1 three times (when he met with Natalie, Brad Elterman and yesterday) and in front of car 2 two times (one time there was luggage in the background, the other time a big parcel). I wonder who drove car 1, since it wasn't a taxi (there would have been different cars).
I already considered that maybe Tom drove car 1 but with someone in the passenger seat (Shermine? A secret person they want to hide?)
And what do you think of the pic with the fan? Devon was already gone and the fan didn't answer who accompanied Bill. Tom was most probably not with him, the fan would have told, wouldn't she
I feel very stressed at the moment and I'm afraid to open Bill's posts in the meantime. I ask myself if times get better when they are back in LA.
Thanks! :) :*
DeleteSure they hide a lot of things, because, seriously, how much we know about them in general? Sometimes I have a feeling we know basically nothing. But I don't think it's about Tom being embarassed with Bill's behavior, because that was long ago, most of people forgot about it and I guess it could be Bill's usual behavior, maybe the difference is that he doesn't show it publicaly so often. So, in my opinion, if so, if it's true, I guess it's about something else, something we don't know.
Well, I know what you mean, but in LA this also happens. Bill's more often out with friends than Tom. There were videos of Bill and Devon, there wasn't Tom and it was from last year, so before Shermine. I think, maybe he doesn't enjoy going out so often so that Bill has to take his friends with him, no idea, because, to be honest, Tom can be basically anywhere else, doing anything. Like, in Shermine's video, when we heard Bill, it appeared Tom was in some different club, who would have expected that (the guy didn't mention anyone but Tom so).
So you say the cars (when he sat in the backseat) were actually one and the same car? It can really be anything, I have literally no idea. When he sat backseat, he was seen alone (at least we didn't see Tom) but, as you say, if it wasn't a taxi but, as an example, his "secret person", wouldn't have he been sitting more likely in the front instaed of backseat? Maybe there were more people actually, some of his friends? I don't know.
Yeah, the fan didn't answer, maybe to avoid drama. There are plenty options actually. The time when fans met Bill in Tiergarten, they also didn't picture with Tom, neither they tagged him, but, as appeared, Tom was also there. It could be like that, but I would say it's rather less probable option. Bill could be alone. The picture was taken in strange place, like in some random residential, maybe it's close to where they live now? He could be with person/people we don't know and she didn't want to do a mess or, maybe with, for example, Shermine. She left to Cannes in the late morning so at the time picture was taken, she was still in Berlin. Everything is so confusing and what we get are mostly "hints" they want us to see and there is still very little information, so it's really hard to even speculate, not to mention, trying to understand what is really happening....
I don't know what they want. Isn't it also strange, that they remained in Berlin for so long? The longer this Shermine story lasts the less I buy it, but it's weird though. I hope everything calms down when they're back in LA
ReplyDeleteSame, like with every more "hint", they make it less believable, less credible. I'm sure they won't show her in that obvious way, if there was something real going on.
DeleteAnd yeah, it's a bit strange, I mean with Berlin. They used to fly to LA just after the tour or some event ended but now, they're staying here for so long... Doing nothing, at least, we don't see them doing anything...
In some way _IF_ Shermine has something with the twins I HOPE it's with Bill and not with Tom...Am I the only one?
ReplyDeleteDon't think so :) I've seen many fans who said they'd love to see Bill and Shermine kissing :)
DeleteYeah, right, usually they went after the tour!
ReplyDeleteAnd where are the 2 new videos and the promos?!
Well; promo more and more people understood what is the "famous promo"-< as U said it become less and less believable!!!
And if they think that's the best promo for them they're wrong!
Not in the sense they've gf (it's all I wish them met someone who love them for their real them and not for their name)-> but the sense that with all that game; fans will not believe them anymore; like where is the truth, where is the lie,..
But I think they'll leave for LA max end of the month, wait and see
Missy
Yeah, we'll see, but from what they said May was supposed to be "promo month" (hahahahhaa) and in the beginning of June they wanted to go on holidays somewhere (like holidays after what then? :)), so we'll see what they're going to do.
DeleteOf course they are wrong, this is the lowest kind of promo possible but well, some fans believe everything they say is true so...
Am I the only one that thinks that it's not Tom who is with her? Bill is always with her. At the concert, at the Holzmarkt. Todao at the gallerie. Am I really the one who believes that it's Bill?
DeleteDo anybody know who's the father to her kid? Like is it a random guy or some of her rich ex boyfriends?
DeleteKid's father is one of her rich boyfriends, Markus Klossek :)
DeleteIn my opinion the scarf she wore in that photo (the gucci one) is not by Tom. And it is not even the same one the assistant opened. She was closing the scarf then, putting it away. Plus, Tom had nothing outside the Gucci store, no bags, he had just an umbrella in his hands. Bill had only his big bag with the shoes. I don't know why you connected the pictures :)
ReplyDeleteBut I wanna ask you, what do you think about the video recorded in the park? Among all this ''hints'' this is the less ''fake''. Although an instagram page has zoommed the pics of the video, and is came out that the kid was not holding the Toms hand, but Tom was carrying the leash of his dog. I strongly believe that there was the Tom's dog, because from this screenshots, you can clearly see the black leash, there is a string. The kid was only walking besides him...but still, why in the ''second part'' of the video, Tom wasn't walking so close to shermine and kid anymore? Shermine was between Bill and Devon, and in the back was Tom..why magically so ''far''?
That blogger who recorded the video is not a fan..she said shermine and tom kissed. Honestly kissing in a public parking is really risky and stupid, where everyone can see or take pics...it seems they are doing on proposit things to be seen. Tom never kissed ria (except that childish one) in public, and now magically he doesn't care? What do you think of it?
To me, there is something's strange in this story...it is not clean, something doesn't fit good. There are too many ''missed things''.
And this ''no promotion in May'' is connected to shermine, I'm sure at 100% about this. Bill repeated tausends times they will do allot of promotion and May will be a busy month, but no videos, no promotion, only shermine. This is not an accident.
-J
To be honest, I'm not sure about this scarf thing either but I connected it because apparently lots of people think it's the same and Tom gave it to her :) I posted it to avoid misunderstandings and so on :)
DeleteNo idea, I guess the videos were taken with some time gap or it was just taken to show us who was there. The strange thing is that this girl is (also!) blogger, she's not a fan and she recognized Bill from behind and somehow noone had spotted them with Shermine anywhere before the Bild article, noone, this video appeared after and of course, everyone (Devon, their mother, Andreas and one other person, we don't know who he was) was there, incident. Of course it is stupid, it's like showing off on purpose while 1. he knew someone could spotted them 2. he knew it was filmed, plus, yes, certainly, it's enough to see how he behaved with Ria, when he was supposed to kiss her in this video. He looked very nervous and actually missed her lips - it was more like kiss on the moustache or something. And now we're supposed to believe that Tom was kissing Shermine in the public park, in daylight, with lots of people around, like not really believable. Somehow this girl managed to record these irrelevant scenes but didn't catch the "kiss" while having camera in her hand. I don't believe her at all, there is no video.
Yes, of course, this is their so-called promo that still continues apparently - Bill has been with Shermine in the museum :)
I am the only one for whom the strangest DETAILS are the way bill... INTERACT WITH TOM LOVE STORY?!?!
DeleteAfter all those years with Ria-> we never seen bill close yo her; joking with her,...
Yeah some video or pics (like in Coachella, in LA when they were the 3 of them she was in black (March 2012), and other stuffs) -> but I mean NOT FROM HIMSELF like here!!!!!!!
When I call strange I mean WAY TOO MUCH
and talking about their last pics in the museum -> some fans on Twitter (who claim the trio twins/shermine were so great) start smelling the game!!!!!
Clearly; when shermine posts 7-8/10 u know where are the twins, and vice versa!!!
Again no jalousy, just that now even the trio fans become to open their eyes!
Missy
I'm sure at 80% that the scarf is a joke, because the one the assistant opened in the pics, it is not the same one she has. It has a different layout. Plus, if Tom really bought something, where was the bag? Lol Mike had nothing, Natasha too, Tom too (there are photos) and Bill had a big his one.
DeleteYeah they were at that Bunker...and I'm sure at 100% that Bill KNEW about her posts since he posted after she did. And he did it on PROPOSIT. It was not a coincidence. He knows how to avoid things and dramas, he did it for years in LA. But right here, he is doing the opposite, posting EVERYTHING related to her, and STRANGELY after SHE DID. He is NEVER the first one to post.
I'm not sure that Tom was not with them Yesterday night, because there were other people like the shermine's blond friend, Marc, Natasha...
Something smells bad...because they are never alone. There is Always people around Bill/Shermine or Tom/Shermine. Nobody has never seen they during an intimate date. Bill is the responsable to make dramas bigger with his spreading everytime.
-J
Of course Bill knew what she posted, especially if they were together there and of course he did it on purpose. Yep, exactly, we he doesn't want us, we just don't know because he doesn't post about it, nor he allows someone else post about it. It's easy but I don't get why some fans think that things like these happen by incident or like Bill was dumb enough and didn't know what he's doing. He's not dumb, he perfectly knows what he's playing at, plus it became so obvious already.
DeleteYep, they never seem to be alone (at least, when they show us where they are or that they are together). They simply play a game with us and observe how far they can push it.
They provoked being recognised last Sunday. Tiergarten is the most crowded place and they assumed that someone would know them. Bill always wears a cap and sth black when he's in public, on Sunday he wore pink trousers, no cap, had Pumba and walked in a big group of people. I'm so fed up with this cheap story. The museum post now is too much. Marc and Natalia were there too btw, so maybe he used a film by them and wasn't even there. But I'm just glad many people commented under Bill's last pic, I hope someone close to him will read and tell him he went too far. I think Tom refused to play her lover so Bill jumped in. The scarf thing could have been her idea. She saw the video and bought the same scarf. Maybe she didn't know they changed the game, so she dropped a hint for Tom. Then they told her that now Bill is her lover, so she started making allusions towards Bill - strongly supported by Bill. It's not funny anymore. I'm really disappointed that Bill is so mean and has no dignity anymore. What happened to him?
ReplyDeleteNo idea, but it's the lowest kind of promo they could have come up with. As we see, there is also a "mystery" around it, because we still don't know who is she supposed to be with, I mean, even as fake date, fake romance, they're confusing us too. It's embarassing.
DeleteYes, I'm also kinda sure they knew and they wanted to be recognized. As I said, apparently they weren't caught and recognized before the article in Bild appeared, and we know they were hanging out too. "Weird" haha And yep, basically everything is possible when it comes to this story.
During FIA in 2015, at a M&G, my friend asked tom; "if he would like to launched new artists" (she turned her sentence more or less like that)!!!
DeleteHe answered: "that yes,.. They watch lot of new artists on YouTube,... Want to give people a chance to be know,...)
THAT'S THE KIND OF PROMO I FIND INTERESTING!
Not only for Tokio Hotel, but for those new artists as well :-) I mean they're lot of talented people!!!!!!
Why helping somebody who has already did photo shoot around the world,... (I don't know all her career shoot...), and yeah I admit who is also know for her loverssssssssssssssssss!!!!
But will have been 100% better promoting their own stuffs or why not new artists :-)
And wonder about the "2 videos", if I remember well, they hadn't give us a clue like they did for all the others ://
Missy
Because it's easier, because it sells and people always are interested in "who's dating who", romances and so on, not just fans. She gave them drama and attention, they gave her a possibility of attention from media.
DeleteYeah, they always informed us when they were recording new music videos, of course, they don't have to do it, but it'll be strange a bit to record it in total privacy while informing us all the time about how they spend their "private time" and with who but avoid professional topics. Well, we'll see...
What do you think about the last days which obviously brought a twist again? Bill was with her at the museum, Tom didn't accompany them from which we know. So doesn't speak for a relationship. But I also have the impression that Tom avoids Marc. He never was seen at an event where Marc was. Neither Berlinale parties, nor his birthday or yesterday with Natalie. And today Mumi, Marc's boyfriend took a selfie with Bill. Again without Tom. So Tom isn't with Bill because of Marc or because he spends time with Shermine who also is suspiciously silent since the museum. I never believed this shermine shit, but it's strange that Bill and Tom are only together when they walk the dogs. Since the tour ended Tom never was with Bill when he went out and fans met him. The only evening event was the paparazzi shoot with Shermine. Something is wrong I'm afraid. I know that Bill goes out alone in LA, too, but don't you think that's too often to be normal? It's ALWAYS. I feel that they either fought because of Shermine (maybe Tom thinks the game is silly or he's really with her) or Tom doesn't like Bill's new friends who are to Bill more important than Tom is. Their only link are the dogs. I even think that Tom returned to LA without Bill. Somehow this fucked up Berlin people made not only the fans go crazy but also the twins separate. I never would have thought Bill would turn into a completely different person there.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to really tell, I mean about Marc and Tom since we often don't know, don't get any sign of Tom being somewhere with Bill, but at the end it appears he was also there. We actually don't know what they are doing for the whole days, I mean, we're not with them 24/7 so really impossible to tell if something changed or not. All we've got are pictures from their official social media (so they post it with clear purpose and as we know, they can be easily manipulated); we know only things they showed us, there aren't so many pictures taken by fans to be honest. And no idea why sometimes Tom is absent, it can be really whatever, really hard to judge because I know nothing about the situation and what happens "behind the scenes". By the way, I have a feeling that picture with Marc's boyfriend can be old + we see two women in the background thanks to reflexion in Bill's sunglasses. From what I notice, those friends Bill hangs out with are all connected somehow to Nora, their manager. Even Leyla and Shermine are her friends and Bill posts only with them. This sounds a bit like mutual cooperation, like both getting some kind of promotion, advertisement and attention through each other.
DeleteToday they left for vacation, twins together and Georg (wonder why; it's kind of strange, isn't it?) with them, we'll see what happens and who else is with them. But I guess Shermine is in Berlin since she posted from there, but of course, anything can happen, even the pictures can be old ones.
Yeah saw the 3 left for holidays, so Gus stayed with family ;-)
DeleteTo me it's normal (admin: I don't disagree with you when you said it's kind of strange!!!!!) but it's normal!!!
BUT, I'll not be surprised if shermine appears in some stuffs during their holidays!!!!!
Wait and see,... But will not be surprised as well!
And yeah; even bill and Marc's bf or shermine pics can be olds one!!!
Or you can even mention Berlin in the location and being somewhere else (in the case it's not clearly Berlin places I mean)!!!!
But, next time th and Nora must choose a more natural and discret girl, no matter if they're fake gf (even if I wonder what they hide with all those fake related to tom since years...), but the matters it's all the shit towards the fans!!!
That makes me angry and sad seeing that :-(
Since the shit towards me on a shermine pic: I haven't deleted all my posts, retweet (on Twitter haha) related to the band,... I love the guys and respect their music and live work but due to last weeks events, I take "a break" with their IG and Twitter accounts, too much fights and dramas,...
Pitty to say,..
Missy.
Yeah, of course, but I meant twins kinda never (?) went on vacations with Georg/Gustav. Always were alone or with some of their friends. This kind of weird, but yeah, generally it's perfectly normal :)
DeleteOf course, you're right, Shermine can appear anytime and of course you can post pictures from old/different locations while being somewhere else. Bill was doing it quite often, he also quite often posts pics with some delay, yeah :)
Yeah, at least they should choose someone else, someone without such obvious and public history. Even Ria was more believable in my opinion, I actually would think she was real if not the fact she was an escort working at the time of their relationship and Tom leaving her after marriage + this separation. I know they were deleting pics of her from Surkus account after fans found out, but it was apparently too late.
I know, I feel you actually, what is happening there is a mess, unnecessary dramas, quarells.
You're right, Bill can easily manipulate with his posts. Remember the one selfie from the boutique, where Tom was in the corner? If he cropped him out we would have said Tom was absent. Tom could have joined Natalie and Marc or just stayed away from the pic. Mumi's pic was quite new, look at Bill's hair. It's more than strange that Georg is with them. Maybe his girlfriend was with him and only left for some reason (restroom, whatever). Or they went to another airport (Frankfurt) where they separated. Or he's really with them, we'll see. I first was afraid that they would go to Ibiza and she would join them, but on Bill's story the trees rather let me think of central Europe. I also think it's strange that they still didn't return to L.A.. I start to think that they have problems with their visa. Maybe Bill's constant bragging about drugs was too public?
ReplyDeleteYes, exactly, if Bill cropped Tom out of this selfie, fans would think Tom is not there, and he's with Shermine for example. Simple as that. That's why I say, it's really hard to assume anything basing judgements just on pictures. We never know who is or who is not in this place, we only know who was present in the picture. Yeah, I know, but I meant one day or two days old, whatever :)
DeleteI think you're right, I'm kinda sure Georg's girlfriend is also there since it will be a bit strange, twins will be together and Georg will be left alone. But of course Bill didn't film her (if she was there), she's not the person who likes dramas or likes to be filmed in private situations... And certainly there can be more people there, we never know :) The Frankfurt is also possible, anything is, in my opinion. Anyway, I guess they're in Europe or in the place with European time since, when he posted yesterday, the time fitted :) At least, they aren't in Mexico or Latin America I guess :)
I think it's possible they have some problems with visa, maybe not because of talking about it, because it's generally not proof when you say something like that to fans, noone can prove you did drugs in reality, but maybe because they were "caught" in LA while being high or having drugs, or Bill, for example, for driving under the influence? No idea but I heard that you can be deported or won't get your visa renewed if you commited a crime. Because, maybe you remember, Bill said he's not driving because of accident, but it's not true since he was driving after they went to LA or still in Germany, there were pictures and it was until 2014. Since 2014, we have never seen him driving a car, so maybe then something happened. Plus, I doubt this car accident really happened, one or two months ago someone was selling Bill's car, the one who was supposed to be completely crashed and supposed to be scrapped. So this is strange...
Girls, Maybe there's a little chance to check what's the true or not (and even not sure...)
DeleteDid U see the new article about Tom/Shermine (just saw that in my TL)-> some pics and according "to a guest who know the both of them"-> it's more than friendship,,..
Shermine also said to interviewer "Tom is toller Mensch,..."
But as the article says: " twins will be back in LA in August"--> and that's my point! So we'll see if they tell the truth about LA!
And also said: "we can expect shermine being there some time also ... LA"
So wait and see, because it's "paper" they can tell everything! But I'm curious now as Bill told they'll be back around June!!!
:o
Missy
I posted that news as U told about the possibility of their visa,..
DeleteSo maybe they've ro renew or make a new one,.. Don't know!!!
Or maybe they wanna stay longer than expected during the tour,...
Wait and see
Missy
I'm 100% sure this article is paid and 99% sure it is Nora behind it (but the rest are aware of this fact of course). There is also another article in OK! (also today) but with Bill and Shermine this time.
DeleteI don't remember Bill saying they will come back around June, he only said they will go on vacations in the beginning of June and do promo in May, nothing about next monthes, but of course, I can be mistaken...
Well, the scheme is exactly the same as in the article with Ria wanting money for university, there were also some friend or insider and everything else fits. For me that only shows that it was not Ria who wanted this marriage/divorce public but Tom. That also explains why other newspapers were able to write/talk (RTL) about it without being threatened to be sued. Looks like they wanted it to be public for some reason(s). They're more evil than I thought (I thought it was some kind of Ria's revenge, you know, showing the world Tom married an escort). Seems consequences of showing he was married to the prostitute were less harmful than the benefits of making marriage and divorce public. And I less believe in it, I should check it maybe more closely.
Yeah! Forgot to tell you about OK (bc of the bath robes, I thought it was a old article) so, yes, even medias play with shermine and both of the twins...
DeleteThought Nora's position was just found a gf-> but it's really more regarding the press,...
Well, he said that in M&G or itw and said with "BUSY MAY" then around June they'll be in LA (according to translations :-/)!!!!!!!
If I remember it was pretty in M&G-> a question related to President Trump and bill telling about LA...
Missy
Yeah I really agree with you:-) same shema :o
DeleteBut Awww that divorce stuff makes us so curious, what can it be behind all that?! Visa, something/somebody hidden,..
Ohhhh yes they play! A lot!
-> THTV of yesterday: (to still talk about the hickey)-> the 2/3 zoom plans on tom where one hugging Capper, and the other ones were showing his neck (of course mostly left did, with the hickey more than visible) and Gus was talking about "thank you" but can't understand! You'll laugh but I thought I understood "little sex, so no thank you,..."-> but I'm mistaken.
So now; fans still doing montage with the hickey
So, to tell, they are aware of what they do, the dramas they provoc,...
I don't recognize them, the G's them Kept it simple with their lives,...
Missy
Of course they're doing it on purpose, they know how to play this game.
DeleteBecause Georg and Gustav aren't drama-queens, don't like attention so much as Bill. Ria-story is a bit different tho, like they had more reasons to do it, so probably they're also trying to hide something and kept our attention out of it.
Everything is a mess. I don't believe that friends would talk about Tom's feelings and above all mention the place they live. Also the article is very in favour of her. Full side pic of her, they mention what a stunning beauty she is with eyes like a princess. Of the Arabian Nights. And SHE talked to the magazine! I also remember them talking about going back to LA in June, Bill even talked about "next week' on her stories. I also remember that Bill said he missed LA and would look forward to returning . Weird. I think there's a problem with their visa
ReplyDeleteYep, the article is like 25% tom and 75% shermine (promo is in the air more than ever)!
DeleteAnd don't think friends of him or bill will one day talk about their lives!!!!!
Yeah right; in the shermine story bill talked about last week!!!
So must be pretty serious; like yes, visa!!!
Missy
It has to be visa. When they did the tv show in Germany four years ago they even flew to LA just for a week. They could have easily gone back for a week to look after their house or just for fun. In the new interview Bill doesn't act like he wouldn't enjoy LA anymore, on tho contrary (ideal day). They'll never tell though. Regarding Shermine; she's at a wedding in Paris, why not take the guy who has serious and deep feels for her with her? But I bet she'll join them tomorrow. And guess what, she HAS to. Everybody would question her again if Tom spends his vacay without her. So I won't be surprised or change my mind about this comedy when she joins them. Furthermore she's used to fly around Europe just for fun. The poor little girl by the way
ReplyDeleteNo idea if she joins them, but yeah, she came to Paris because of her friend's wedding, I would say she SHOULD take her new "boyfriend" there, instead of coming up with one her friend. But no - the "boyfriend" prefers vacations over time with his "beloved girlfriend", he has "so strong feelings for" :)
DeleteYeah, it's probable it's visa, but I checked some things out and something doesn't fit. Once they said they had green card which is valid for 10 years so how they should "renew" it now? It wasn't 10 years already. Similar thing if it was "immgrant visa". There is also something called "Visa Waiver Program" which allows people from certain countries (including Germany) go to US for 90 days in tourist/buisness reasons. But I don't know, if it's compatibile, I mean, if you can use this privilage if you lost/wait for different kind of visa. Anyway, it looks like they did something against the law so now they can have problems, Ria doesn't seem to have any, so it's not because of marriage. But I'm not really acquinted with visa/immigration law, maybe someone knows more.
Just so you know. I don't know about the actor's school but she hasn't finished one single of her studies. She's studying something with nutrition now but having studied myself I highly doubt that she's active. This is one thing that really annoys me. Bragging with things you haven't achieved
ReplyDeleteI don't know but the thing she graduating from University in Duisburg in political/social sciences is on Wikipedia, that's why I wrote it here :)
DeleteI know, cause I already saw it on Wikipedia some time ago and was annoyed about her lies. But it fits perfectly to her. She's a bitch.
DeleteNatalie is in Spain. I'm afraid that's a sign that Tom and Shermine are real. Natalie surely came to avoid that Bill is the third wheel with two couples. I never bought their story, but obviously he really is with her. That's devastating.
ReplyDeleteBut Natalie is on Mallorca, not Ibiza.
DeleteHello, I wanted ask you something, whether you noticed the same strange contradictions I did in this weird rumor. First, the article of Bunte about she and Tom. There are written many odd stuff. They cropped the (old) photo of Bill, Tom, shermine and the other male friend of them outside the restaurant Grill Royale. If you paid attention on it, they posted the photo with only tom and shermine, when we know that the original photo is not like that. They also wrote they went at that restaurant alone, for a romantic dinner. Why did they cut Bill and the other male model? It makes me think they cutted them to show they were alone at that restaurant. But they were not, and we know it because we have the original pic. Of course not all the Readers are TH fans, so they can't really know that in that photo were also bill and another friend. This is the first strange thing I noticed. They wrote a fake thing and cropped the original photo. Plus, that photo is old, 31 of January and they wrote in a way that it seems recent.
ReplyDeleteThe second weird thing is that they wrote ''friends'' or ''a guest''. Like to make Readers understand that their friends talked to their journalist. I really have strong doubts of it, like I don't think that Tom talks to strangers about his feelings and the only person that could know about his love affairs are only Bill an d 3-4 people, not more. The closest friends. How can a close friend of Tom talk to a reporter about his personal business? Don't you find strange and gross? Bill and Tom would never allow a friend to talk with journalist about their love affairs. Bill hided for years his partner, nobody knew him, so this makes me understand that if bill/tom had a real love affair, they are definitely able to hide it.
And more. They also cit a ''guest'' of the bar, as if everyone at that bar were staring at tom and shermine, to see what they were doing. Don't you think is strange? How can a reporter know that they spent time at soho together? Who are this ''insiders''? I know that politic of Soho is really strict and receptionist and all people who work there, can't say business of vips or whoever is member of Soho, because of privacy. Read the rules at the official site of Soho, there is a section very long about how it works. They can got fired, because many vips hang out at Soho and they have to feel in peace, doing whatever they want.
So..who talked with the reporter of Bunte? Did they invent many things?
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(-) Third: how can a guest of a Bar (it could be whatever normal person) understands if there is something more than a friendship ONLY because he/she saw them at the table with other friends? It is really strange to me that the friends which they trust more talk with newspapers, this could ruin them or anyway it could be Dangerous. And I have doubts also about the shermine quotes, accordin to Bunte thet asked her something. Do you really think that Bunte asked her something and she said what she said? Unless she is completely dumb, if you really have a love affair (and SO public) and you wanna hide it, you don't even answer to the reporter, you just don't say nothing. Although she said just ''tom is a great person but I cant tell more'' she used a sentence that makes the other understand that there is something. That article is really strange...even more because they mixed events, cropped a photo and it's hard to me think that friends of bill and tom talk so easily of them. It can be that someone paid Bunte to invent something and write that stuff? And that is all controlled by them?
ReplyDeleteAnother thing: I don't know if you notice but it's came out another article od Bunte, an old one about shermine and Bill AGAIN. The same newspaper who wrote about her and tom. Don't you think it is weird? Are you stupid or what, do you print an old article of shermine and bill after you published the article of her and tom? This is too strange.
Last thing: shermine said in a recent video, 7-8 days ago (when she was going back in berlin from cannes) ''And next destination Ibiza''. And twins went in Ibiza in vacation, without her. Is something's happened? Why she said so in the video and she is still in Paris with her friends? She seems do don't care about tom. Why not spending the holidays together if tom has really ''deep feelings''? Vacation are the best ways to be together and more intimate.
Shermine is in paris because of a wedding but of course you know about a wedding A WAY EARLIER, like one or more months before. She knew it! people don't invite you 3 days before the wedding.
Did you notice all this things that don't fit? No vacation together, at least for now and Bunte that writes all those stuff, a cropped photo and friends of bill and tom that magically talk with reporters.
Hi, I also noticed those things. How would guests talk to Bunte? I doubt that they called them. Also I never believe that friends talk to Bunte. Either Shermine initiated this article or - that would be shocking - the twins.
DeleteOf course, you're right, none of their friend would talk to Bunte, there is no way. People who were studying with Andreas said he never respended anything when he was asked anything Tokio Hotel-related. Never. They had to crop this pic out to fit the story. Of course guests or wokers wouldn't talk to Bunte, first, they had to be paying attention to Tom and Shermine while I don't think they care, there are more popular celebrities in Germany, second, they had to talk to Bunte which means Bunte had to know who to interview, who to ask about it. Not possibile, too much effort, not worth it, at all. The next thing is, that they threaten to sue newspapers for writing about their private life, like they did with their father or childhood's friends (they were warned not to tell ANYTHING about their private life, it was already in 2006). which also made me think that divorce becoming public what was they wanted and it wasn't Ria who made it public but Tom and Nora. There was the same scheme in the article about Ria wanting money from Tom, also "insiders" and "friends". So the answer is - the "insider" is their PR manager Nora Richlitzer, who is also friend of Shermine, strongly connected to Grill Royal. And don't believe their words when they say "Bild is angry for TH because TH doesn't want to give interviews anymore so that's why Bild talks shit about them", this is plain lie since they cooperate, now Bild is doing promotion for Bill and his Vogue photoshoot. They have no reason to give him space on their site for free. No reason because it's plain promotion, not even something scandalous and Bill is not "such a big celebrity" who brings them more entries and more money from adverts. He's more like "shooting star" already. They simply co-operate, TH work with Bild.
DeleteI don't know why she said that, maybe it was just random, she didn't think much when saying it, because Ibiza is known from parties or it was for fans confusion, not idea. Yeah, Tom/Bill wasn't in Cannes, now she didn't take any of them for wedding, while, in my opinion, she should, because you more likely take your partner with you when you're invited on wedding instead of you friend.
So generally I think the main initiator was Nora, with Shermine help and twins agreement :)
DeleteFor me it's definitely clear that this was all just a game and PR. It started with the "hints" from Bill and her. No partner of them would do that, they would stay silent. The second thing was eastern. She was in Marrakesh, while the twins stayed at the Spa. I would wanna have my love with me. The third thing was again the spa. She was there with a friend, not with the twins. The fourth thing was the article. It was the proof for me that this is just PR. Cause there was not ONE picture of Tom and her on a romantic date. And all the "friends" and "guests" could have easily make one. And last but not least Ibiza. If I am in love, I would wanna spent my vacation with my partner. To make it official and spending romantic time with him. Instead Tom is alone and Shermine was in Paris for a stupid wedding, which she could have cancelled easily if she would be in love with Tom. So, for me there was happening anything between them and I am done with her. She may be some kind of friend to them, but nothing more. Will not waste my time on her anymore.
DeleteYes, I agree with you. The final proof was the article, they made it to convince us but the effect was exactly opposite.
DeleteIt seems that shermine is going to Ibiza right now. What do you think of all this story going on? I wonder what is the sense of going in Ibiza a week later that your ''supposed'' boyfriend? Do you think they are really a couple although he's been alone for a Whole week, having fun in nightclubs? Georg and susanne were together since the beginning of this vacation and I don't think Georg goes in nightclubs without susanne...it would be rude and not respectful. What it the sense of going in Ibiza in the end for maybe 3 days? And have you seen her hashtags? To me she is making everything worse, writing #love #summervibes so that people see she is having an affair with tom. She is like over showing, too much. Don't you think is also gross the matter she is taking her kid too? Like, the kid is 3 yo, she is too little to have her own room to sleep...she will sleep in the same room of her mom, and with the kid in the same room, you can't do much, it would be disgusting.
ReplyDeleteDo you think that they are really together or not? If my boyfriend goes to the nightclubs in Ibiza without me I would be so jelaous and mad, susanne and Georg went together as couple. They don't really act like a couple. Why not going to that wedding with your partner? They could have flew together to Ibiza, after the marriage in Paris.
-J
and dont forget about the club last night!!! Only Bill, Tom and two more friends were there. Even Tom was dancing with a girl!!! Come on!! I think the Shermine stuff is another big lie!! too much proofs :) Y.
ReplyDeleteHello, I wanted share some doubts of mine about this story with you, you can tell me then what you think about it. First, shermine created a second account on Instagram (shermine.shahrivar) another public one. You can see it's hers since her friends are following her, and she follows private account of her friends too. Why creating another public account? It made sense create a private one, to preserve your privacy and to don't show your business to strangers -especially TH fans). Second, she follows Bunte page on Instagram. Bunte is the same newspaper who wrote about her and tom and her and bill. Is it a coincidence? Why should you follow a newspaper, a GOSSIP one that cant wait to spread your business? In this way Bunte can also watch her photos and gathers more material in order to write gossip and articles of her. I would never follow a gossip magazine, especially if they cropped a photo on proposit, inventing stories. Isn't strange...?
ReplyDeleteThird: she posted a photo in her new account, tagging the hotel where she stays and the location. The pool is of a hotel and this hotel is about 20 min by car, from the farm they all stay. Why does she stay in a different hotel? Why didn't she go in their same hotel at Granja? That hotel has a nice pool as well. If you are so in love and a couple you should sleep together. But this is not really proper, going in vacation to stay by your own. 20 min by car isnt so much, sure, but meeting sometimes for a day it is not the same.
Fourth: if you paid attention on the video Bill taken in car with Tom (the first day they arrived) you can notice Tom drove (and rented) a sport car, with only two seats. That is a tipycal Luxor car with only two seats, you can see it very well because in the back they have only the trunk with their luggage and there are no seats in the back. Why renting a car with only two seats if you know that your girlfriend is coming soon with her daughter? Why didn't he rent a car with 4 seats? He could have easily get it. But the seats are only for two person. It really seems he didn't plan to pick her at the airport and nor to come back with she from this vacay, otherwise why they are going to stay? Isn't rude to make your gf rent a car by her own? It is, of course. I don't think that Georg would act like this with susanne. Bill posted a boomerang right Yesterday, of his bracelet and he was in the front of the car. It means that Tom was driving with no shermine. Isn't strange? And although Georg and susanne rented a car for 4, with 4 seats, isn't rude to send your gf with friends instead of with you? It seems that shermine rented a car by her own...it is weird.
Last thing: dunno if you saw it but are came out (ONLY NOW LOL) photos of twins, friends a couple ones with shermine. Those photos are from different days, you can see it by their outfit and in a photo there is also Mumi (which is not in Ibiza anymore). And shermine appears only in one day. There is another day where twins are at the beach, kinda lonely, without shermine around. Tom is sat on the sand, but no trace of shermine. Same with the photos where they are walking on the Street with susanne and Mumi. Where was shermine? Why she wasn't with them? And why NO ONE PAP has never taken photos of them until now, if they are in Ibiza since 9 days? To me, they called the pap. It wouldn't be the first time, otherwise why taking photos only now that shermine is there?
And why Tom is so stupid to be interested in a woman that changes men every summer? There are things that don't fit. Did you also noticed all these things?
Of course it would be strange if it was about normal relationship, but it's not. Of course it's set up and it's all staged. Paparazzi don't care about them, didn't follow them in Berlin for 6 months (apart from the one set up with Shermine in BILD), they were free to do whatever they wanted. Noone followed them also on Ibiza. But, wow, suddenly they are so important and paparazzi find them out on crowded Ibiza, follow them the whole day and they of course "didn't even notice". Every picture that came today was taken by paparazzi, they were posted on some agency site.
DeleteYes, I also noticed those things (not 100% about the account, I mean, I'm not 100% it's but still).
OMG!!!! Im shocked!! with the last pics of tom and shermine in Ibiza!!!
ReplyDeleteI have to laugh so much about those pics. Tom never kissed her, never looked at her, never played with the kid, never smiled. And when she "hugged" him, he is showing her his back like "I don´t want this". Come on, that is called love? Then I am shooting myself hahaha This is all fake as fuck. There are also articles about it, but only about HER. SHE is in Ibiza with Tom, SHE loves rich men, SHE is in love. Nothing about THEM as couple. And there are still fans shipping them now and believe this shit? Are they all blind or what?
ReplyDeleteYes, they're blind and very naive. They haven't learnt anything and it seems they are still stuck in 13 year-old-mentality. Sad.
DeleteAbout The pictures, well when I saw all that, I was like; okay girls we've the confirmation: they're a real couple in love...
DeleteBut some details are really "Big";
-1st: she stay at an hotel about 20 min by car from their... The 2 others guy stayed also there, they're friends also with her; so even towards those friends: why she stay in another city another hotel!?!?
2nd: they are since 8/9 days in Ibiza; we got nothing -> 2 fans pics (at beach and a selfie with a girl fan); nothing else!
Yeah we got video a the party (where it was also a drama with tom and the blonde girl-> some told it's Suzanne (and yeah seems her profile is the same) and georg was behind tom and near bill) don't know if it's true but drama,... (And that video came from their friend story) but of course Shermine is in Ibiza -> bammmmm, PAPARAZZI!
3rd) some will tell; yeah but paparazzi also took pic with Suzanne and the 2 other guys -> of course because only pics with shermine and the little would have been "TOO BIG"
Missy
4) in the pictures yeah he smile,... They are together with the little and at restaurant or cafeteria, she hugged him,...
DeleteSeems natural and love maybe, but at same time; why paparazzi (because as admin told it's from agency: BSR if I remember)-> of course those pics are not from random fans !!!!!!!
Honestly; sorry for what I'll say, it's not towards the twins as "persons" but towards the GAME THEY PLAY
-> I'm disgusting by their behavior!
Really; he can you play with your fans like that!
And even imagine if bill or ton really have a real gf-> I can't imagine the real gf accept seeing his man in newspaper with another (even if she knows it's fake and business)!!!!!!
I think the time Tom was with groupies was even better --) it wasn't so much dramas and maybe there he got real feelings for some and not only BUSINESS AND PROMO FEELINGS!
Sorry girls; I'm maybe rude, again it's not towards them as persons, but if they keep playing the game, they'll lose not only fans but the respect from people!!!!!!!!
And sorry for the long comments
Missy.
How paparazzi pictures can be proof they are really in love? Paparazzi they called and paid and did it for some reason? The only thing it confirms is that it's all staged. Since the beginning. They planned it. Fake.
DeleteHotel is nothing weird, since she is there for drama, nothing more :)
Do you maybe have a screen of the picture she posted from the hotel?
DeleteI fully agree, they called the paparazzi. But maybe Tom is so in love with her that he wants to show it to the world and therefore wanted pics? Now Natalie is finally in Ibiza too. I don't like they continue their Berlin life there. I bet we won't see the twins together in public. Tom will appear in front of the photographers with Shermine and Natalie will film Bill on her ig stories, so that everyone thinks Tom is so in love.
ReplyDeleteSince when Tom is sincere and honest with fans, and do things to let us know about real things instead of making up things? :) Why would he show real private life (and called paps!) instead of showing something fake to make us discuss? Plus, it's Shermine Shahrivar, she is known of such things in Germany. People will laugh at them. This is such a shame.
DeleteTo Missy:
DeletePlease stop publishing my comments and my account. When you wanna write with me, do it on IG. But I don't wanna see my things on other sites without permission. To the admin: Can you delete my text of the Bild and Gala thing? And the one where Missy mentioned my account? Thank you.
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Again I'M REALLY SORRY!!!!!!!!!!! I just talk about your comment which are TRUE ARGUMENTS!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteNot to bother you!!!! And didn't do that for your comments to be deleted, please trust me :-(
Go to Noah Becker's Instagram. Noahalotofthings. Noah is a good friend of Shermine and is obviously in the same hotel in Ibiza. Probably she flew there with him. I think she didn't post yesterday because we would have known that she is not with Tom. I'm so fed up with this vacation. Natalie is the worst stalker. Is Bill so obsessed with his Berlin people that he can't even spend holidays without them? It's a nightmare
ReplyDeleteHah, now is time for Nico and her child to come to Ibiza. It's hilarious, she can't deal with them alone, she needs her friends all the time around. Looks like Ibiza is new Berlin. They all get some attention thanks to being on Ibiza (their Berlin "friends"), so maybe that's a reason.
DeleteNow she posts from the twins' pool and covers the face of the person next to her, but still lets us see the "high as fuck" cap. It's a shame and it's mean. She wants us to think it's Tom. If she wouldn't have made a mistake and let the chin uncovered we would have thought it's him. I hate her and I am so disappointed by Bill and Tom that they continue this story. They stay until August. Just imagine the upcoming weeks. Daily drama, daily posts by Bill's friends of wasted Bill without Tom, weekly trips of the happy couple. I don't get Tom that he agrees to all this.
ReplyDeleteYes, I don't get why they want to sacrifice their loyal fans in matter of cheap PR stunt and a couple of ridiculous articles. A few people may recall about them, but they will lose those loyal ones who paid for their expensive vips. The thing is they're not liked in Germany, they were always generally mocked and now they risk being mocked and laughed forever because of Shermine. Shermine is know just from being "rich men hounter" and from paparazzi stunts. People know who they are but they don't take them serious. They won't pay, anyway.
DeleteTotally agree with you, I mean why keep making such things and risking losing the loyal fans they've!
DeleteAnd now sure more than 100% Nora is implicated -> when looking the pics in "La Granja Ibiza" -> it was a pic of Nora on May 13th!!!
So now, we're sure she certainly adviced the boys that location!!!
So, maybe also easier when them to plan something with Paparazi too and organized also the restaurant location,...
I mean; my theory!!!!
But yeah funny how now everybody is in Ibiza... But happy their "long date friends" are there, Andreas,...
But see what will be the next episode of the saga now,...
Did you saw that she liked hate comments on her site and pics of hate sites, who published pics with her ex men? How old is she? And fans are bullying against those fans for saying the truth? This thing is getting worse and worse each day. She is so childish, trolling fans, posting hints and liking hate comments. She should stop that, before fans are stopping bullying against each other and start to bullying againgst her. It´s obvious that there is nothing going on with Tom, but her childish stupid behaviour is so embarrassing for a 34 year old MOTHER.
DeleteI haven't seen the pictures and likes, but looks like trolling. She's probably laughing at fans right now and doesn't care as long as the drama is going on and attention is on her (them).
DeleteWell, because there are usually 3 types of fans.
1. The ones who really are jealous, they call her whore and slut and say that she's ugly, disgusting, but there is no use, we all know who she is.
2. The ones who see this is all staged, it's clea, but are accused of being jealous anyway. To be honest - I never have been jealous. For 5 years I believed in love stroy between Ria and Tom. And, if so, it would never be Tom who I was jealous of ;) I'm just fed up with their disgusting lies.
3. The ones who write how beautiful they are, how cute couple and shit, and accuse others of being jealous. But most of them are the ones who are jealous the most. They just want to sound more mature.
Thanks for deleting the comments about me.
ReplyDelete@Missy: Please never post anything again about me or what I've said. Thanks.
To Shermine: People with eyes and brain see that he doesn't want to be touched of her. He looks pissed and annoyed. He doesn't look at her or the kid just one second. She is not even in the same apartment. Not even press is believing her. So I don't know why fans think there is something. It's embarrassing.
Ohhh sorry if I told your name:-( it wasn't to bother you!!! But just because I agree with you; you've real true argument and find pitty she deleted your comment on her insta!!!!!
DeleteIt wasn't to bother you at all :-( really I'm sorry, trust me!
Missy.
Missy, honey, everything's ok :) Don't worry, really :)
DeleteThanks sweetie! ;-)
DeleteBut wanted to apologize to you and the other kind fan :-)
And otherwise; did U see a screenshot with some dates (in LATAM if I remember) in July and August?!?
Seems to be photoshopped ��
Missy
Nope, I haven't seen it, but I guess yes, it's photoshopped, noone is talking about the days and band didn't announce anything since then, so...
DeleteObviously Shermine and Nico are in another hotel. This pink flamingo she showed on the first day and now is not in their pool. They have two yellow things in it. I'm surprised she posts this flamingo. Maybe she thinks we don't realise it's not in the twins' villa? I would laugh so hard if she and Nico would stay in another place. The villa has space for ten people (Russians found already out where they live), so it would really please me if they live in another hotel
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ReplyDeleteI'm impressed with the degree of research put into these posts! I'm curious as to how 'corrupt' you believe the twins/Tokio Hotel actually are? If so, why do you think they have become like this? Do you think they behave in certain ways to manipulate our emotions?
Thanks,
Thank you! I have to say - it's very good question :)
DeleteSo, in my opinion, TH is very corrupt, especially the twins of course. I know it was always like that, because, honestely, TH is rather commercial band and Universal did everything to make them famous and earn money due to them. It's clear and I get they had to lie more or less often, show-business is fake in general. But - I thought there are some borders, some lines and they didn't go that far into making up stuff, now I see I was very wrong unfortunately. First, the thing with Ria, till now, I don't know what's going on, I can't even comprehend, because, you know, this situation is not normal in any way, in oppostition to what some fans claim and accuse others of being "jealous". Second, there was Billy's EP, now this thing with Shermine. I can perfectly understand they don't want to share their private life with fans and media, the real private life, but, really, doing things like they're doing is just too much. In my opinion, it'd be better if they just said nothing instead of making up lies.
Why they have become like this? I don't know, I think it's a bit part of show-business, most things in show-business are more or less fake, poeple just want to sell their stuff so they need proper PR, promo and stories. Another thing can be - hiding their lives, hiding things they don't want to share so that they need a facade. People won't jump into conclusions they don't want them to.
If they behave in certain ways to manipulate our emotions? Yes, definitely, 100%. That's what it's all about. Emotions make the bond between the fans and band stronger and make fans into buying VIPs and other stuff, but now it's mostly about VIPs, since they cost the most and they require the less effort. Thanks to this, fans also care more about the band, care more about their lives, what they say, they are more interested, they give them ATTENTION :) Attention is very important, celebritities crave for it. Fans also can identify with band members, with their feelings, view on different matters, some can fall in love with them - Bill and Tom's images were made like this - the womanizer for one kind of girls, and a romantic searching for true love for different kind of girls. Songs' lyrics too, all of them are a bit "dramatic", I would say, they're strongly influencing emotions. The other perfect example that fit all of it was Billy's EP and his stories about being heartbroken, hurt, left alone, in pain. Fans pitied him a lot + also identified with him and his story. Unfortunately his story makes no sense from logical point of view...
I cannot understand how Tom agrees to calling the paparazzi, after bashing the idea of it in so many interviews. It just doesn't make sense. Is there a chance that maybe he actually likes her? I'm confused, because on the other hand he claims to have trust issues with girls, and only likes/dates girls with titles e.g. jessica alba, chantelle paige, nicole scherzinger, ria and shermine (both of which are pageant queens). The only answer is that they're are money making machines who couldnt care less about fans and their old ethos.
ReplyDeleteBut this is how it works, they just can't say they called paps, most of celebrities say how much they "hate" paps but call them when they are useul. It's not just Tom, it's more likely a rule. Maybe some pictures of the most known celebrities are accidental indeed but most of them are called anyway. Paparazzi and celebrieties "co-operate", they don't hate each other.
DeleteThey called Lies and other paps in LA all the time, to keep fans "entertained" while their break, to create some drama. They hired paps to do this set up with Chantelle. They called paps on Maldives and after Bill was bashing the person who took pictures. This is how it works.
For me - if there are paps called, it shows clearly there is nothing serious going on and everything is staged.
The girls you mentioned - womanizer image, it's clear.
DeleteTom stayed in Ibiza with her. Really, I'm in tears. That's my final day with them. I don't wanna see them every week in the magazines and I don't want to see Tom on her Instagram every day as her happy girlfriend and father of her child.
ReplyDelete1. Where are the pictures of Bill at the airport?
Delete2. How did we know when Bill is coming back to Berlin so that fans could check the flights and could go to the airport? Bill posted. If Bill didn't post we didn't know, he could stay silent. Anyway, he knows fans are doing it since they are doing it all the time, it's obvious.
3. Don't forget there is also friend of Shermine with a child.
I think we can expect some paparazzi pictures from Ibiza or from the airport. Well, that was probably the plan.
Are you all blind??? Tom and Georg already left before Bill! Since Andi, Natalie and Christoph stayed at their apartment. And there was no pic of Tom and Georg anymore since days. And of course Bill posted when he gets back, so people can see "Oh, no Tom. Then he must be still in Ibiza." Lol don't let yoursekjf get trolled all the time, please.
DeleteI bet you already saw the pics, they are on Instagram. The fans didn't see Tom. There are only few direct flights from Ibiza to Berlin, you can easily check them on Berlin airports site. So Bill expected perhaps fans to find out and to wait for him, so we knew he came alone. I bet paparazzi will be on Berlin airport when Tom arrives with her. This is so unbelievable. Really, I thought it was a pr stunt all the time, but Tom is in love with the biggest attention whore. And he didn't even spend the last evening with Bill, Bill was at the Granja resort with Andy and Chris. Tom couldn't even wait to get to her hotel until Bill left. And he didn't drive Bill to the airport. Bill's pic shows that he's sitting in the backseat. That's horrible, a nightmare, I can't believe I was so wrong. How can Tom change so much? I envy people who don't care about this. For me this isn't bearable and now I have to leave my favourite guys only because this whore chose Tom to get attention again. I couldn't sleep all night because I was so confused. Imagine. Tom now spends a week with her and her daughter, maybe also with Nico and her son. She is so important to him, I don't get it.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion - of course you're right when it comes to Bill wanting fans to find out. He could stay silent or post old pics as he sometimes does. He knew fans will search for these flights and he knew they will be at the airport. It says something.
DeleteNext, TH aren't our friends, no one close to us, they've got image to perform. Things that look like "incident" or "random", "private" aren't like that, lots of things are planned, prepared and staged, especially when they are posted by them. There are lots of people behind it, people we don't see. It was supposed to be "private" holidays but appeared to be next show and game; gross. I feel like it will be like that until August, seems it's their way for promo now. It's very very sad and very very low. I know they're not The Beatles, they are kind of band of shitty promo but this is beyond everything. It's cheap attention seeking, behavior of media prostitutes. Anyway, why is there this friend of Shermine anyway? Plus, as I saw she didn't come there just for vacations, there was also a photoshoot of some kind.
For me - they hired paparazzi to show this "love". Why would he care to hire them if he cared about this "love" and her? Why would he feel this strong need to show media and fans how "in love he is"? Remember he's not our friend and there is no need to show this kind of things. For me, it's clear - paparazzi = staged, done on purspose, not real. And yeah, I also think there will be some new pics taken by paps soon, maybe on Ibiza (she posted from some restaurant), maybe from the airport. Remember about Ria. I actually thought the shame he got was enough but apparently, as I wrote already somewhere, he wanted us to know about this divorce. This whole thing is strange enough to have doubts, but as it seems, the shame and need to show this "relationship" was real, was bigger than the consequences.
Next, talking so much about privacy, how private they want to be, but at the same time making "private" life completely public. On purpose and for attention. This is disgusting hypocrisy and he shouldn't be surprised when fans stalk him or ask questions. Eventhough, I know this is just a show, he wants us believe it's "real private life", so this argument still applies.
By the way, I noticed Bill stopped posting from rooms/bedrooms at all already and some gossips that appeared few months ago, disappeared. The same was with Ria.
I can't believe how this vacation turned out. Now Bill leaves alone. Never never never would I have thought that Tom is with her. Can you believe, the guy who told in every interview that he doesn't want to have a family now is on vacation with two kids? I'm mad at myself to have had a completely wrong image of the twins. I really bought their "bond" but Tom didn't even drive Bill to the airport. And now it's Bill partying with his friends every night. Berlin is hell. It all seemed too staged to be true. How can Tom now celebrate his relationship with THIS woman in public? And even if they split up I never will respect Tom again although doubt that they will break up. She's clever enough to know she won't get another rich famous guy soon. I bet she'll get pregnant now. And this will also be celebrated via Instagram and Bunte. I despise him but it hurts so much
ReplyDelete"It all seemed too staged to be true. How can Tom now celebrate his relationship with THIS woman in public?" I think this is a clue. He could easily stay silent, she didn't have to post anything related to them and we wouldn't know she is anywhere near them. They would have had peace for their "love". But it was staged and planned since the beginning, so they didn't want peace. This is disgusting behavior, I really thought the shame and embarassement he got after Ria appeared to be prostitute and everyone saw that, was enough for him, and, most importantly, for this band image. But I guess I judged by myself. The shame wasn't enough, he wants more. Shermine is another league, everyone in Germany knows who she is, they'll be laughed forever but whatever.
DeleteDon't think so, Ria was pregnant every month for five years, on average :)
You're right this vacation seems to be a complete show. However, Bill also posted many pics from their winter holidays, so maybe he really wants to share? But nevertheless I doubt that there's any truth in this holiday. Also because all of their friends were there and posted. Isn't that strange? Natalie, Mumi, Andy, everybody shared pics of the locations and tagged them, as if they WANTED to be found. But I don't understand why they act like this. How desperate are they?
ReplyDeleteLooks like they're very desperate. And, as appeared, there were a few Shermine's friends too, including Nico.
DeleteSeriously girls, why should Tom stay with 2 stupid sluts and their children? Come on. Tom and Georg already left, why is everyone thinking that Tom stayed? He doesn´t give a fuck of her, you can see it on the Paparazzi pics. Of course you wouldn´t spent time alone with someone you have no feelings for. And he doesn´t. It makes me so angry that they still have the power to troll fans and fans are still believing everything. That´s ridiculous, really. They don´t have anything with each other, don´t let fool you.
ReplyDeleteI think almost all of you confused the things...
ReplyDeleteI can assure Tom left with Georg and susanne on friday. They rented a villa for 6 persons (tom, bill, Georg, susanne, andy and his bf). Shermine never stayed at their villa, she is in another hotel with her daughter, and her friend with her son.
They only went to Granja (which is NOT their hotel) to have lunches, breakfasts and dinners). They rented a villa, a big home in another place, you can see it by the pics, the pool is TOTALLY different and Granja has no a sea view because there is NO SEA around that place. You have to drive 20 min by car to watch the sea. The Bill's pool has a sea view, so Granja is not their hotel. They dont wanna cook so they used to go there to eat.
Shermine is in another hotel with her friend, you can see it by pictures, different pool and nico posted two days ago a pic with shermine. What sense would it make staying in a public hotel when tom rented a super huge private villa?
And again, tom rented a car with only two seats. Shermine is N O T alone, she has a DAUGHTER so they would be 2. No space in the Tom's car. What's the sense?
And if it was so, why Georg and susanne didn't come back with Bill? The came in Ibiza all together, why not coming back together? Georg too has to work. And susanne has a normal job, in germany you dont have 30 days of vacation, they have only two weeks in summer.
Their villa is rented from Tomorrow again by other people, today is empty. So Tom left with Georg and susanne on friday or saturday morning, while bill stayed with natalie. And maybe also Andreas and his bf left the same day of Tom.
About the paps... why strangely no more photos of tom and shermine? Why only one time if paparazzi supposed to know they would have stayed more days together?
Because they called them that specific day. Nobody cares of twins in Ibiza, nor in Spain. And lol do you wanna know a VERY FUNNY THING?
Bild cancelled the article of tom and shermine online. And also the other newspaper Gala. They both deleted the article, you cant find it anymore on their site. Dont you think is suspicious that BOTH of them cancelled the SAME article on their site?
You can only find it on vip.de. That's the only one.
They deleted articles? It very strange indeed. They called the paps (I know noone cares about them in Ibiza, not even in Germany), made them write articles and paid for them, a few days later - made them deleted. Maybe they were satisfied with the reaction or want to look "private".
DeleteGo check her insta story!You can see tom in the reflexion of the window pretty clear so he is still in Ibiza with her!idk but I start thinking that maybe I am crazy and they are really together.
ReplyDeleteShe already "showed" that she is with Tom and they are a happy family. What else can we expect? I'm tired of this shit. Tom, her, Bill, Natalie, Andreas and their friends, are all in the same shit boat.
ReplyDeleteI can't stop thinking about what happens. The reflection in the car is Tom, so it's confirmed he is with her. It's unbelievable. Also with regard to Bill. He leaves him for almost a week just to be with this whore. Bill will be surprised about the future. She already changed Tom totally . I always try to find out why they celebrate this relationship in public. I guess the answer is that she wants it. To my mind the whole thing started as loose sex thingy. Then they thought it would be fun to play with the fans. But obviously Tom fell in love and now acts like a puppet on the string. He leaves everything behind to please her. She wants to share everything in public so he does her the favour. Tom is completely blind now. If she tells him to jump out of the window he will. I never believed in this drama, but now I do. Tom would never stay a week in Ibiza alone with her and her daughter if it was just a game, don't you think so too? I think they'll return on Sunday, that's the next direct flight in the evening, then they will call the paparazzi. But I really am convinced that Tom isn't Tom anymore. This is a guy entirely controlled by a woman who dictates the rules. Therefore he accepts to make everything public and will allow her to take pics of him, call the paparazzi, film home stories, accompany her wherever she wants, make her pregnant, adopt her child. It all makes sense now. It's not a pr game anymore, it's Tom being under her control.
ReplyDeleteTom is not a pupper, don't be naive. He could have beeen a puppet in his private life, he can make mistakes in his private life, but that's, as I said, private life. No situation when everything has became public, because it also affects the band and they know it. It makes them lose money. Not just Tom agreed, but Bill, Nora, I don't know about Gustav and Georg, I don't know if they can say anything against twins. She is not ruling him, because he's not stupid. They're both playing this game.
DeleteI'm sad. What we now see is just the consequence of their Berlin time. The twins drifted apart more and more, now they separated completely. Bill has his dumb superficial friends, Tom his attention whore. Both are only used by those people. And for this they give up their brotherly bond, the only thing they could rely on. How can two adult people be so stupid.
ReplyDeleteI looked at the pics and I think Tom already left the villa after the dinner on Thursday, where Shermine, her daughter, Natalie, Andy and Chris also took part (the pic with eleven plates). We didn't see Tom after. So I bet he moved to her hotel after the dinner was over. I also think twins had a fight. Maybe Bill invited his friends to the villa cause Tom left with her. I think something happened between them cause Tom would have driven Bill to the airport otherwise. Bill's post with Capper now probably shall tell Tom that he is a bad father. The dog seems so sad. I hope Tom gets the message and leaves this whore. Although I doubt it. She will use her body to make him forget Bill and Capper
ReplyDeleteDo you still follow the band? You're not around, so I guess you are on hiatus, too. I now unfollowed everybody and I try to completely stay away from everything. It hurts so much. But I don't want to hope that the situation will change. Even if it's just a summer love (which I doubt, Bunte wrote Tom is serious and now I trust them) Tom showed his true colours. I think his relationship with Bill is severely damaged and won't ever be the same. That makes me so sad. Bill must be shocked. I feel so bad for him, it breaks my heart. When I saw Tom being all happy at this birthday party I started crying so hard. But since I can't change anything I have to completely erase them. It's devastating, the most horrible nightmare and I suffer so much now. How can Tom an such an ass. They will surely call the paparazzi at the airport, with Tom's permission. But it's not pr. Tom wouldn't stay with her for one week just for pr. I'm in shock
ReplyDeleteKinda, I mean, I'm not (maybe I should say "not yet") but I am busy with my university and so on.I get you, but this whole thing is incredibly strange and looks fake a lot. I don't want to sound schizophrenic or like I was doing everything to deny the truth but it really doesn't look real to me. First, all "hints" are from Shermine's own IG or paparazzi or newspapapers (Bunte 10000% wrote what Nora said, they wouldn't bother to care about them, they would not write anything about their private life, when they didn't want it). Second, if it's real, we must remember we were informed about it, they made it completely public and basically sold their "private life" to media. I mean, Tom and Bill, while acting they're protecting their private life and shit, while saying how much they want to be private, while complaing on the stalkers and followers. Third, Tom is not on the lead, they all decided on it. Tom would be stopped if it was not what they wanted, by Bill, Nora, since it affects the whole band very badly, makes them lose fans and money. Tom and Bill want it. So what reason do they have? What do they want to prove? We must remember Bill took part in creating this drama as well, don't forget his own posts. Shermine's not the ruling here but they both co-operate and Tom is fully aware of what's happening. It's disgusting to be honest, like I thought they didn't want divorce to be public (even if it didn't fit the logic), but now I'm sure 1000% that's what they wanted. Same here and same now. What a disgrace. Tom's not really innocent, pure and clear in intentions, looks like. There is no reason to defend him and his "privacy" due to divorce and "relationships".
DeleteYes, I perfectly know what you mean, it's horrible and gross. Instead of videos, documentary, tour dates, we get Shermine and they want us to enjoy. No way.
* I noticed that Bill stop posting from their pirvate locations like hotel rooms/their bed. We know what they were accused of after Ria, what they were suspected. Tom was said not to spend enough time with Ria, but now - just look what we've got. Maybe that's what they are afraid of.
Anon, Tom still is with her. You can clearly see him in her Instagram story of a birthday party tonight. It is not pr. He wouldn't stay for a whole week just to appear on her instagram. We didn't evening get more pap pics. I highly doubt that Tom stayed in the villa. I think he moved to her and
ReplyDeleteNico. It's simply horrible
We didn't get the paparazzi pictures but we did get hints and her stories. Surely she didn't know fans are following her and they would notice it, did she?
DeleteThis game is getting shitty more and more. Tom who always says his private life is private, lets her "girlfriend" posts hints and videos of him? Do you really think if this is love, she would behave like that and Tom would let her? That's a game. I don't know what they have from making their fans angry, but it's all on purpose.
DeleteI think from his side it's love, that's why he lets her post all those things. Just to please her. And this makes me so sad. I never believed that he's such a cold person. He dropped Bill without blinking, it doesn't affect him to be separated from him. Today is Sunday, he didn't return. Probably they ll leave on Wednesday, two weeks after her arrival. I'm always open for theories, but Tom staying over a week with her, apparently highly amused with those people who now know him as her new boyfriend is just the worst nightmare. This is love. He's completely under her control, brainwashed. That's the only explanation I have. I can't understand his behaviour towards Bill. I never will be able to be happy about a nice pic of them or trust an interview. Tom doesn't care about Bill at all. He could have an accident or even die, he wouldn't interrupt his perfect life with her. He also abandoned his dog. How cruel can a human be. I hate him so much and I feel so hurt that I trusted him to be a nice guy.
DeleteI wish you all the best for your uni and I really hope you don't leave. You're a very precious blog and I love to exchange opinions with you
DeleteThank you! :* It's really nice to hear you like my blog :)
DeleteI don't think Tom's that naive and brainless, of course twins can fight and have problems, but why would he make everything public, why would he want everyone to see it? He's in this business for long years, he knows it from behind, he knows how to behave. But now he suddenly changes, and because of who? Shermine Shahrivar known from being rich-men hunter and attention-seeker and does things to please her but hurt his broher and the band which is his source of money and everything he has now? It doesn't really fit. It feels like a mean game, but yeah, making fans angry and annoyed it's not the best idea.
I very long was of the same opinion. Now I think it's real. At the beginning Bill, Nora, Tom and Shermine had fun trolling the fans, being in the press. But at some point Shermine decided that Tom would be an adequate partner. He's rich, young, good-looking, famous. Then she made him fall for her. And this idiot couldn't control his feelings and is now really deeply attached to her and her child. I think Bill didn't expect it to end this way. Bill thought they would go to LA soon and then it would stop anyway. I think Tom is so under her control that he allows her to post and to call the paparazzi. He changed because of her. It started out as a game but now he's a puppy and only wants to please her. Bill failed and now he has to bear the consequences. Having lost Tom
ReplyDeleteOf course Tom can fall in love, but there is a difference between falling in love, do stupid things out of love in private and making everything public. I don't think people around him would allow him to do that if it was what they didn't want, they could stop it at the beginning, when the first "hints" appeared or whenever else. It does affect the band and there are people responsible for the band image (like managers for example), it would be their job to stop it. But that's just my opinion.
DeleteShermine doesn't seem to be in Berlin now, she went there by train which makes me think Tom is not there, actually.
Admin: (we know you're busy with your study so good luck :-) ).
ReplyDeleteReally what do U think!?!?! First we thought it was PR, but knowing he stayed with her (they're proof from her insta: reelection in the car)-> first I thought maybe they could have sent her the story they made by message (cause You can send story by mail or message I think).
But yeah; I know that's crazy thinking that. And now it's confirmed, he appears on her video at the birthday (saw a fan telling she already deleted it now)-> so seems not being PR anymore!!!!
Why he would stay there one week for PR???!?
That's disgusting me really seeing how she (and maybe other persons too) changed them..... What?!?! They became so I know when they don't tour, that they need such dramas to STAY ALIVE!
I don't have words, really.
But think we can see their relationship is real and not PR. But now she can be happy she won. She made the fans angry,fans mostly being disappointed by the twins,...
Missy
Thank you! :*
DeleteHe could stay there for plenty of reasons, we know there were a lot of people, Shermine's friends and so on, there could be also Tom's friends, people we didn't see, whoever. Anyway, as I said, it's just my opinion :)
One way or another, yes, I agree with you, that's disgusting.
To tell you how they disappointed with that circus and their behavior: I don't even want to go at the next parts of the tour!!!
ReplyDeleteTravelling and paying to see guys who played with their fans, who don't give a shit anymore,...
And pay to support that woman exigences and helping for buying her stuffs?!?! NO THANKS! I work to pay MY STUFFS NOT FOR A B*TCH!!!!
Sorry again to be rude, but she changed them too much,...
Missy
Tom arrived and Bill quit. This is clearly a sign that there's sth extremely wrong with them. I'm sad. I never thought those two would separate because of some attention whore who just uses Tom for fame. They drift apart so fast. I don't think they'll return to LA together or even do anything together. That's the end of the band, of the twins of everything. I hate this woman so much. She took away such an important part of my life. The twins warmed my heart. You know I saw so many relationships shatter, I thought those two would be stronger than everyone and sort out everything. I was so wrong. Bill maybe thinks this is revenge for Tom staying in Ibiza, but it will strengthen Tom's affection for her. The twins will never be the twins of 2016 and only because of her. I also hate Tom. I hoped everything would be better when he returns but now that Bill is gone I lost every hope. I know I have to leave them, it's only pain but I've been around so long so I can't stop caring
ReplyDeleteI think you overreact a little. Bill always attended fashion Shows while Tom stayed at home. And there are no prrofs that Tom was a week with her in Ibiza. The Video in the car could have been from the Paparazzi day and the birthday Party Video...well, no one except her was posting anything. I don´t believe that Tom was with her, since she is doing everything on purpose.
DeleteShe is also posting very sad things. Like the I c u Picture. Noone who is in love freshly would post that. I think she means Lapo, since I think she stills love him. When you look at the pics of May she Looks unhappy, thoughtful and starring into nowhere, while her new boyfriend is sitting beside her? They may troll fans or make them believe anything, but you just have to take a look closely. Neither she or Tom are looking HAPPILY in love. And that´s what they should look like when the love is in the beginning.
For me there was never anything and never will. The band will not split, the twins relationship is still the same and Fans should stop making more Drama about it than it is.
In fact the last real hint we got was the video of the party. I'm surprised she arrived without posting. I wonder if Tom went back earlier on Sunday with the airline he arrived with. I also think she is alone today.
ReplyDeleteBut isn't it weird that Bill didn't post from a show yet? He's in Paris since yesterday afternoon and only seems to party with Marc and Mumi. This seems like an escape to me, like he wanted to leave Berlin and Tom. I think he now wants to prove that he stays away longer too and doesn't need Tom. I just doubt if this doesn't make Shermine stronger. I hoped they would get back to normal but this trip to Paris seems quite quickly decided. I agree,it would be stupid to make it all public, also a fight, but I only can explain it with Tom out of control and now Bill not giving a fuck anymore too.
I'm really sad that they seem so distant. I don't want to be Bill in Paris although I can understand him. It's such a mess.
I think, if it was escape from Tom, he could just rent a hotel room or anything like that, there wouldn't be a need to leave the country. And to be honest, I don't think she is with Tom right now, I guess she's with her friends, there was some other kid on her IG story + she travelled by train, it's rather doubtful Tom would travel by train. From what I noticed, Bill seems to be alone most often, in the cabs or something, of course, it's not like we can tell for sure from his pictures but still.The other times he's with Mumi, Marc + there is also some girl quite often, I don't know who she is. Anyway, yeah, I agree, it's a mess.
DeleteWell, the people around are Nora. I doubt that she really is into the band and their fans. For her it's just a side job. She probably thinks she has everything under control, I doubt that she knows the guys well. So probably she doesn't care if Tom makes a fool out of himself or if the twins destroy their work and their image?
ReplyDeleteIt's not just Nora but they also have another PR company + of course the record company. I am sure they care.
DeleteI hope you're right and we are overreacting. But it's not usual that Bill is away for so long, he was away only for one night before the tour. Now that Natalie is there he'll surely stay until Monday. I don't think this will improve the twins' relationship. But I agree, she doesn't look happy. Also the one pic after the party where she's laughing - totally fake. I think the party was real, she posted from the car, from the dinner before, but maybe he left on Sunday . Tom seemed quite at ease in the cafe, but pics can't tell so much. I agree, she misses Lapo. She wants a real man. Tom won't impress her friends. She would have needed entertaining flamboyant Bill to be able to show off. She maybe gets bored soon. But really, I fear that that was a turning point for the twins. Do you think Bill trusts Tom like before? I also don't like Natalie. She surely supports Shermine so she'll tell Bill to live without Tom . I want them to be together again :-(
ReplyDeleteHave you seen Natalie's Instagram stories? I think Bill looks sad. I don't know why the twins constantly try to have fun with other people on their own. They look most happy when they're together. I really hope we'll see them reunited soon. It's not funny to think they have problems.
ReplyDeleteBill looks so unhappy on every pic. The only relaxed moment was with the dog. I don't think they have worked things out yet. Shermine was quiet all week but that doesn't mean their "love" calmed down. In July there's fashionweek in Berlin, she's invited. I bet she will take Tom with her to finally make it official. I hoped Bill's absence would make Tom see that he needs Bill, but Bill wouldn't look so sad. Why can't they be good again like always before that bitch
ReplyDeleteYes, he doesn't exactly look happy, but I feel like he doesn't quite enjoy those fashion weeks in general, he is invited and it's a way for some kind of easy self-promo so he goes, plus, parties of course.
DeleteIt's hard to imagine Tom on fashion week as Shermine's boyfriend. He's generally rather shy, so him trying to show how much he "loves" her would be a challenge for him. Just look what happened when he was supposed to kiss Ria, and it was prepared, just one kiss.
There's a new video where you can hear Bill saying "I'm gonna go back to LA in July". I'm upset. Does this mean Bill goes without Tom, is it really that bad with them that Bill doesn't want to stay till August and Tom leaves him alone? What do think, please tell. This would be the worst nightmare. They can't fight so much that they now live on different continents. This can't be true. I'll not get any rest now until Bill leaves.
ReplyDeleteI really have no idea, I don't know what he meant, because it often happens he says "I" and he means "we". Hard to tell, we have to wait and see what happens. Plus, actually we don't know where Tom is in the moment, if he's in Berlin or somewhere else, maybe in LA. We assumed Tom returned with Shermine but we actually don't know when it happened and where he is...
DeleteThem leaving in August was Bunte's version, information from Nora, who knows why she said that or maybe things changed.
Honestly why do people think twins fight? About what? Bill always went to fashion weeks and Shermine is not the gf of Tom. So there is no reason to fight. They are going back to LA together of course. Nothing has changed, people are just overreacting to nothing.
DeleteBill said: ""He's not here, he's in LA. I'm gonna go back to LA in July"
DeleteBut I don't know who he meant, if he was talking about Tom or someone else.
I think he meant Tom and apparently he's in LA. But why? I so much hope that Bill won't attend Berlin fashionweek, but as "his people" are there he probably won't return to LA before 8 July. Which would mean that they are separated for another two weeks, three weeks in total (if they saw each other in between Ibiza and Paris, otherwise it would be a month). That would be very long for them. I see that Bill went to Paris, Marc had lots of events there, it was men's fashion and there were many interesting shows. But can't he just surprise us in a positive way and go back to Tom next weekend instead of another party marathon week with those fancy Berlin guys? I only wanna know that the twins are not fighting and everything is ok between them
ReplyDeleteAnon, there is a video of Bill speaking about coming back to LA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nKHXlUZIVM (sorry, I deleted your comment by mistake)
ReplyDelete"Video is not available"....
DeleteThe video works for me as it should... Just delete any "spaces" in the address if they appeared.
DeleteShermine is on her way to LA with her daughter. I'm really in shock. Now we know why Tom is there . It's even worse than I thought. At the beginning I was absolutely sure it was pr. When he stayed in Ibiza I tried to hope it would be just a sex thing. But now we can be sure it's real, Tom "died". He's there for her, probably prepared the house. It hurts so much. Now she will post out of his car. Now she lives in their house. Tom could at least have waited until Bill returns from Paris to go with him to LA. The fact that Bill waits to get back shows how bad their relationship is. They avoid each other, I don't understand their mom and friends that they don't interfere. Tom threw away this beautiful bond. I bet he'll return to Berlin with her when Bill arrives to LA. There's no more hope now, everything is even more negative than expected. I give up, I leave this fandom but my life will be so much colder now. My cute twinsies. . .
ReplyDeleteAs appeared, Shermine just wanted to trick us and posted some fake "hint". I guess it was just old picture, maybe when she was travelling to/from Ibiza, whatever. Now we know they're both in Berlin.
DeleteOn one of her last pic she putted hashtags like "nyc" (the pic on the street with the stop letters)-> so maybe they're in NY or maybe old picture.
ReplyDeleteBecause as a big hasard-> the comments under that special pics are working now...
And as twins are still in Berlin, don't know what the next step will be?! Only them in LA or also shermine too?!
Otherwise: do u Have any news about divorce!?!
Missy
The picture from NYC is old, she posted it as #topbodychallenge
DeleteNo idea, but seems they didn't stop this game since she posted a video with Natalie's son, maybe from the video set. She may also be a part of the video, I don't know.
Nope, I don't have any news unfortunately. Silence, everything remained the same...
"Strange" there's no news about divorce!
DeleteI mean we got every news about that in some days (articles in press + documents) and now nothing anymore...
Or maybe one of the two don't want to divorce anymore,... Wait and see. Thx for answering :-)
But funny I've the impression we saw shermine (well she shows herself also) more in few months that ria in several years...
Missy
Yes, we got everything, but that was because Tom wanted us to get it. It was Tom (or they in general) behind making divorce public issue. He wanted us to know, he informed us, but now we've got Shermine so we should forget about it. The problem is she should respond, she had one month, but there is nothing. There is also one strange thing about Tom's lawyer, I mean, he's pretty good lawyer indeed, but he has nothing to do with family law and divorce cases, from what I saw. His areas of work are mainly car accidents/body injuries/business frauds/compensation, two recent companies he worked in also are connected with these fields. It's a bit strange, because, if I wanted to divorce, I would search for lawyer good in divorce cases. But maybe he already knew this one before, so that's why he chose him, it also can lead to some conclusions.
DeleteYeah, just saw that! (Video with Natalie's son)...
ReplyDeleteYeah, the game is not ready to stop! And be sure she'll be with them in LA!
And I also get a little thought about maybe her being in the BDC video...
Well, summer will be great for some people... Happy for them if they feel comfortable in that game-> twins and shermine fans are in pure heaven, so everybody seems to win :-))) Great for them:-)))
Missy.
It was clear, she just waited to drop a new bomb. She knew we saw Natalie's son and then had to post a video with him. She's so desperate. She noticed that on her last pic no fan insulted her so she had to create drama again. I was happy when we saw the twins together, I even started hoping a bit that Tom dropped her, but no, even the video is now ruined cause now it's related to her somehow.
ReplyDeleteFrom the previous "hint" in the airplane, we could realize that she's doing it perfectly on purpose + she sometimes posts old pictures as "hints", to create a drama, to make us believe something. Such behavior doesn't prove anything real between them in my opinion, I think they know what they're doing. Maybe she'll be also part of the video? I mean, as an actress or model? Would be a disaster, I suppose.
DeleteI agree. She plane pics made everything obvious. If she really takes part the fans wouldn't be amused. Tom looses followers every day and Bill had more likes before the drama. He went from +35000 to +22000 . I was just so shocked when I realised it was Natalie's son she used for drama. It's just disgusting. However, no matter if she takes part or not I'm done with this video. This woman is evil
ReplyDeleteYep, fans definitely wouldn't be amused and of course it's disgusting to use a boy to create a drama, but this is how she is. Well, that's true, Tom's losing followers every day, Bill actually too, plus, he loses likes. But that's their choice. Unfortunately, I have a feeling it's not just her who is evil...
DeleteNow she uses her ex to make drama. The new pic of Tom was taken by her ex, a German actor and photographer. She's fine with him, especially his new girlfriend is very close to her. She visited her in LA last year and they often comment each other's post. She surely made Tom acquainted with her ex to prepare their LA evenings. (Her ex lives in Berlin and LA, he'll soon return there). I really thought Tom cooled down a bit but things are worse than it seemed. Now he visits her ex and let's him post a pic of him so we all know they're together. And what makes me most sad is that they always exclude Bill. Shermine obviously doesn't want Bill around, she's jealous and doesn't like him. I hate Tom so much that he's so brainwashed and leaves Bill another time. He dropped him and I'm sure he will move together with her, either in LA (She'll stay there for one month!!!!) or in Berlin. It's over, Tom is lost. He'll even make her pregnant if she tells him to and erase Bill from his life
ReplyDeleteWell, there is no need to take and post pictures on social media to get acquainted. The point of doing so is certainly drama. I don't know, the pictures can be old, I don't know where and when they could be taken, who was present there so I can't tell if Bill was there or not.
DeleteIn my opinion, with every post, they're proving more and more it's all staged. Apparently they think it's ok to treat fans like that. Tom could avoid posting this picture, he could make it deleted, like TH did with lots of Ria-related blogs, with Surkus pictures, he could make anything, but nope. He enjoys what's happening. I doubt he's brainwashed by her, more, there are plenty people around that could stop it.
I don't understand this whole thing about the recent pics from the ex of Shermine about Tom and then Shermine posting a pic made by his ex... What is happening!?! What are they trying to show??
ReplyDeleteThey are trying to show nothing. They are just trying to create a drama, that's all. And they succeeded, of course.
DeleteI have to tell you how happy I am that you're around. I'm so upset the whole time. I thought that Tom would get back to normal last week but now drama is increasing every day. Do you really think it's staged? Tom looks so old and exhausted on the pic, his beard is a bit longer than on the last pics so maybe the pic is old. But why does he support this, why do they treat their fans like this? I fear they ARE in love and Tom just makes everything to please her no matter what the fans think. I hope I'm wrong but everything looks like he just is her marionette. This won't stop when they leave Berlin, it will even get worse. She'll be in LA for one whole month.
ReplyDeleteThanks :)
DeleteYes, I really think so, but you know, that's just my opinion. I talked to my friends too, some Aliens, some not, one of them lives in Germany actually, and she finds Shermine-woman just ridiculous, she says she's just creepy, everyone laughs at her and knows she's just an attention-seeker in love with staged things, most people won't believe it's somehow real. It could be any other woman, really, but Shermine? When I start thinking there may be something real in it, I instantly get reminded who Shermine is, about her behavior, actions, men, and it's like really impossible for me to believe it. Anyway, I think, if they were really in love, I guess he would be doing things to please her, but in private. Why making every single thing public, why inform everyone about that if not for drama and attention? Tom and Bill could deal with their father, with their friends from childhood, silenced them all, I suspect Ria could also signed some "loyal agreement", but he isn't able to deal with one Shermine? If he didn't like this man posted the picture, he would have surely made him delete it, I don't think he would have posted it without Tom's allowance in the first place. Like they made Surkus account delete pictures with Ria or shut down a few blogs and forums because they didn't like what they were writing about.
Why they are doing it, why they are pissing fans off? I don't really know, but maybe they think fans come back after they announce the tour or something? Maybe they think they will buy expensive VIPs no matter what? But now it's turn for LATAM tour, they may be surprised. Maybe they're like "every kind of rumors and publicity is good as long as they don't forget your surname"? It's not like their first action, you can see what Bill's trying to do with some of photoshoots or "fancy parties" (this Dandy Diary is not high-class party, it's unfortunately for those who weren't invited anywhere else, you could see what "stars" were there), like he was practically begging for a little bit of attention, he uses the lowest kind of means to achieve that.
But I don't understand!!! I'm latin and believe me, bad publicity destroy famous people here, most of my alien Friends are like "I was waiting for the LATAM tour so far and now i just don't know if I really want to see them" I mean... the twins are acting like in a cirque!! really someone somewhere could like it?? they are losing fans wordwide.
DeleteI really don't know what they are doing and why. I know that bad publicity can destroy an image, especially when it comes to fans and their idols, but maybe they think that any kind of attention is good? Maybe they think this promo would give them more offers? Maybe they want to keep us interested while they're not working (and they should be working)? Maybe they want to prove something? (I noticed big change in pictures Bill's posting, he used to post plenty of pictures from his room/bed/hotel rooms, we could even see that he and Tom were sharing the same bed, there were lots of toll-rumors, maybe that is what they were scared of. If so, they proved the opposite point since, if toll is not true, they have nothing to be scared about + toll has been bringing them a lot of money since fans love it, from what I noticed, especially LATAM fans; if there was a little truth in it, their behavior was also stupid since no one could prove it anyway).
DeleteYes, I know, they are losing fans and I'm not surprised since it's indeed a cirque what they're doing. If it was real, they could stop it (in public, because they made everything public) but they didn't means it's what they want. No promised dates, videos, documentary, book, instead giving us Shermine. But there are also fans who claim to "like it", these are the ones who believe in everything, believe in huge love between Tom and Ria, more, they also believe "in Alex's story" and call everyone else jealous and immature.
A personal question. How do you deal with this drama? I suffer very much. It's not healthy to only fear their next posts, but I can't let go. I always was a fan of the twins and it hurts so much to see Bill just focussing on fashion and his fancy friends and Tom just being with her. They don't have anything in common lately. I feel like she ruins everything but I still can't quit. I hate myself for secretly hoping that this drama will be over one day. Now that I know she'll be in LA for one month it's a horrible thought that the end of the drama isn't near at all. I try to concentrate on other things like work or other people, but I don't manage to forget them and to feel bad. Now my summer holiday approaches and I'm afraid that she'll ruin that too. Have you considered of leaving them? This week will be horrible. Bill partying every day alone, Tom being with her. Sometimes I hope the band would tell the fans that it's over. Then we could move on.
ReplyDeleteYes, I know what you mean, I get it perfectly. It hurts, it makes nervous, it's definitely not healthy. The saddest thing is that being a fan of someone should be fun, should be just the moment of relax, entertainment, not stress. To be honest, they've been annoying and pissing me off for a few months already, with their arrogant and disrespectful behavior, their egos, their lies and broken promises, their attention-seeking attitude they were performing instead of doing something creative, productive. I know it's hard not to think about it, not to check things out, got rid of them if they were part of our lives for such long time, it's very hard and very sad. But, you know, I had to do something so I stopped following them and fans on twitter and IG. Now I just follow one tumblr and sometimes check their IGs pictures, less drama, less stress, more facts instead of opinions and arguments. It's way better in my opinion. And yeah, trying to concentrate on other things that make you happy, trying to distance yourself from it, is also a good option. I think it will get better with time, I mean with emotions and feelings, not with "their situation", because I don't know what they come up with soon...
DeleteWell, in my opinion (this is just my suspection based on their behavior and actions), band will be over (very) soon. I think they will finish this tour and schluss. As far as I remember, Tom (or Georg?) said we'll have to wait for their new album few years; who knows how many years we'll have to really wait for it. Sorry, but for me it looks like they were trying to gain as much money as they can, they don't really care about anything else (so that's why their promo is kinda efortless and very cheap) just to disappear some day. And do you remember what they promised? Promo in May, two videos, CH video, book, band documentary, Bill even said there are serious plans about him acting in some Russian movie...
Thank you for your answer! I also unfollowed many people on Twitter and Instagram. You can be right with the near end of the band, the Gs don't seem to be motivated anymore and the twins act completely out of control. LATAM dates will be crucial I think. Either they find their love for music again or it's over. I doubt that they'll sell many expensive tickets there. First the economic situation is bad and second LATAM fans are very much into "toll". I see many fans from there disappearing now. Your comments about Shermine and Tom being staged are clever. It's too much. Like this story with her ex, why did Tom allow to post the pic, he knew we would connect this guy to her at once. They wanted drama. I think Shermine crossed a border with Natalie's son tho. She posted a pic tagging her "the one and only" the next day but Natalie didn't like it although she liked many pics on the next day. They are desperate searching for attention. I'm just curious if Tom really accompanies her as her official new partner. If they're really a couple he has to. Shermine surely doesn't want to appear alone. I'm nervous. Let's see
DeleteYes, to be honest, I feel like they lost their passion to music long ago, it's just about money now. Fashion events, side-projects (Billy) which main focus was to earn money, expensive and more and more ridiculous vips, plenty of adverts on Bill's profile. When was the last time they, as a group, attended some event, festival related to music? I don't really remember. All Bill's doing is attending some fashion events, he claims to be "so interested in fashion" but I really don't see it either. He looks bored most of the time. Plus, those events in Berlin he attended are for z-class celebrities and attention-seekers, from what I read and saw. It's nothing special, nothing high-class, relevant. Why is he doing that? No one else wants to invite him? He's becoming one of those attention-seekers who appears everywhere, on every "wall", that are known from being know. Like Shermine. It's another occassion for party and drinking, but that's another thing.
DeleteThe picture posted by her ex-boyfriend is indeed creepy. I mean, the situation. Who's making their ex-boyfriend posting picture of her new-boyfriend? LOL
I'M SO TIRED OF THAT SHIT!
ReplyDeleteSeems that B*tch won the games de the one who WILL SEPARATE THE TWINS!!!!
Yesterday bill was with friends and Tom with the love of his life!
Of course; they can do separate things with their friends-> but we can feel here it's insane!!!
Don't know anymore what to think: real crush or game?!?
What do you think girls?! And I cannot see her name, face,... Almost every day!!!
Missy
I think it's a game, the more they post about it, the more hints, paparazzi, the more it looks like a game. Plus, they really don't look like a couple to be honest.
DeletePlease tell me if I'm paranoid, but this new drama about Adidas party is more than weird. First fans take a pic with Bill and Bill takes a video of the party. Tom is nowhere, everybody thinks he wasn't there. Shermine posts of other locations, everybody thinks she's not where Bill is. Then the same fans who took Bill's pic publish a pic of Shermine and Tom (Tom obviously drunk) and we find out that all of them were at the same party. I think Tom went with Bill and Shermine and the other girls joined them after they met G. Butler. But to me it seems that they WANT us to believe they're on bad terms. They act like Shermine and Bill avoid each other. Or am I overanalysing? Bill posted Tom last time on Adidas party. Shermine posted so much but not Adidas. Probably Bill met her ex too but they just posted Tom to make us believe he was alone. Isn't it weird or is there another simple explanation, like she wants to be "private" and therefore doesn't post from there, Bill just didn't want to post Tom? I'm confused
ReplyDeleteNo, I don't think you're overanalysing, it really looked like that. But next there are appeared videos and pics of them together. I really don't know what they're doing, what they're trying to achieve, but I am sure they know what we think of it, Bill's up-to-dated on his IG, by the way. They didn't have to do such a drama, they didn't have to show us some things, but instead, they could have shown plenty of others, calming us down. We don't know anything about their real private life, anyway, sure, they hide plenty of things and show us those that they want us to see. This proves everything is on purpose. Maybe their huge egos and "We know it all, we're the best and know the best" attitude is one of the reasons they're acting as if they were insane.
DeleteHi Missy,
ReplyDeleteYou asked for opinions. When I saw the pic with Tom and Shermine I was devastated but then it turned out to be the same party.
Did you see the short video of them at Grill Royal? This was very interesting to me. Shermine laughed with Bill, Tom sat there like he was in the wrong place. There was no magic between the "couple". Now today paparazzi pics, right after Shermine met with the Bild guy (you can see him on her stories). Once more no magic. They don't even talk to each other, but sit in front of the window so that pics can be taken. It's such a sad game. After the video of the dinner I'm not sure if they're really a couple. Why didn't he accompany her on the red carpet? If they're in love he could have done that.
Bill obviously is on good terms with her. Probably he met her ex too but they didn't post his pic to make drama
It's a mess. I just fear she'll accompany them on their flight and Liesangeles will take pics of their arrival.
I hope she get bored soon. She wants a real man,not someone childish and immature like Tom.
Hi,
DeleteThx for answering! Well: I don't know something that seems they're couple for real then seems circus and fake...
Didn't see the video at grill...
But also the fact she try to show she's with them only to bored and make drama -> I really can't see her face or read her name!!!!!!!!
And now I (unfortunately) agree with Admin--> IF THEY KEEP ACTING LIKE THAT--> IT''S THE END OF TOKIO HOTEL!!!!!!
Or maybe that's what the band wants "step by step"-> remember tom or georg told that that album (or the next one) and tour WILL BE THE LAST ONES BEFORE TOKIO HOTEL ENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And agree with You: I'm sure she'll be in LA! And more than 2 days...
Missy
Exactly, I agree with you, sad game and mess. They could have acted completely different way, hide everything if they didn't want us to see it but nope, shows they are hiding something else and this is what we are supposed to see.
DeleteWell, yeah, it's very probable with Lies Angeles, I feel like they can do it. Unfortunately.
There is another thing, another topic, I want to ask you guys what you think about it. Alex and Katie went to Canada, on some holidays, Katie were posting lots of pictures with Alex, well, she's doing it all the time, but those pictures looked as if they were couple. At the end, Alex posted a picture from this place with captions #wedding and #mrandmrsgold. Why would he write about wedding? Do you think they can be married already?
All paparazzi pics from Ibiza and Grill Royal suddenly have disappeared from the agency's website. I wonder why. Maybe the twins didn't know about the pics at Grill Royal and were pissed? But that would be too good to be true. . .
ReplyDeleteOf course they knew, 1000% sure. First, no one cares about them anymore and usually paparazzi don't follow any celebrity, usually they are just called. Somehow they always "catch them" when they are with Shermine. Second, it looks staged and fake as hell. If not the caption underneath and if I didn't know the whole story, I wouldn't have an idea about who these pictures were supposed to be be, you know, I mean "Tom and Shermine" caption. They looked like strangers to each other, distance between them. Plus, obviously they were sitting in front of pap camera. Third, they posted plenty of hints themselves, on their social media.
DeleteThere is also one strange thing, if you write Shermine's name on BSR Agency, there are pictures taken on 5th July 2017 with caption "Shermine and her new boyfriend" and this boyfriend is a man from ICONIC management.
But what's the deal!?! They post pics: got dramas and comment and then-> MAGIC! IT'S DISSAPEAR!
DeleteAnother sign it's circus and masquerade!
If it's real -> no reason to cancel articles and where can we see the video?!
Hummmmm I'm sure they knew about the pap-> Shermime and tom were just in front of the window! Pretty visible... Well my opinion
Last week I was nearly ready to unfollow Tokio Hotel, Billy, Natalie, Decode,....
And it's weeks I didn't like or comments -> just 1 or 2 posts://
Missy
Admin: could you please post a pic of the ICONIC MANAGEMENT!?!?!?
DeleteJust for us to get an idea:-)
I mean to "add" on the pics we've here :-)
And yeah sure also they KNEW about the pap!
Like the previous time at grill-> shermine and tom were in front of cam!!!
And agree with you -> others months like that and they'll keep Losing fans.
I start to wonder if they maybe want to stop the band step by step...
Gustav has a family, georg was rumored to planned wedding with Suzanne,... Maybe they want other plans in their CARRER too!?!?! Don't know!!!!!
The 4 are talented: Gus and georg can find other serious job and the twins are interesting in fashion and writing/dj for tom.
Really start to think all that circus and then being less and less active as regarding the tour,... -> beginning of Tokio hotel ending!
Missy
Ingo T. Nolden:
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BWI984xAco9/
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No idea what they're planning to do, what happens in the future, but even if they want the band to be over, it's definitely not the best way to end career. They will leave only kind of disgust caused by their most recent actions. But they're falling one way or another, they're losing fans, there is no doubt. We all see it.
Yes, they're less and less active. And it should be like opposite, they should do a lot now. I mean, promo, announce the dates, go on tour.
When it comes to band memembers, I once talked with some musician regarding their musical skills and talent. And I kinda agree with this opinion. Just a curiosity. She said the most talented one is Gustav, he's great at playing drums and as we could see, he's got very nice voice as well. I personally like his timbr better, but that's just my opinion, tastes are different. She said Georg is rather mediocre, Tom is not really so good at playing guitar (he also knows it) but, fortunately for him, he can produce music. The biggest problem is with Bill, since his voice is not getting any better, he doesn't practice and he uses different voice effects to cover that a bit. It feels like it's an excuse because, I don't know if you remember, but he denied to sing just a few lines of his new songs at Billy's events. Like, it really does not happen often that singer denies to sing just a sample of his own songs at meeting with fans. I think he was afraid it would sound bad (what still surprises me is that he didn't learn to play any instrument in those 12 years, nothing at even the basic level, eventhough he had plenty opportunities).
Well, there are also his other "side-projects" but let's be honest, he won't be a desginer, he definitely won't be a dancer either. And model career - well, he's there because he's name is Bill Kaulitz and he still have fans. What if there was no fans and no band? The best for him is that he's the most known out of them four and I think he's using that now and it looks like he was doing it more for himself, less for the band... You know, it's nothing against him, I just try to be objective a bit. It's very sad to see what's happening now, after all those years, anyway.
I don't follow Alex/Katie and never go on their pages....
DeleteBut regarding he band:
-1) you're right; they're better way to end a carreer-> for me; ideal way to end: "a best of's tour"!!! Or something else RELATED TO MUSICS -> events,.. As you said!!!!!
Because by doing this they lose fans and respect too!
Regarding Tom/Shermine circus -> do You know that all Paparazi pictures related to Ibiza and the Grill dissaperaed from all the sites!?! Strange: BUT at same time another proof everything is/was masquerade!!!
-2) about the skills; I understand what you mean!!!!
Bill said previously for ex he will play instrument on the tour,.. Nothing
And you mentionned Tom's production skills> another way to ends the carreer "as a band" is to produce/launch other artists (in my opinion) and they will be great articles and mentions about him!!!!
But no; they prefer to "leave" because now it's not 100% sure they will/want; by playing with the fire...
Missy
I don't know if they're really "brave" enough to end the band. It's a secure income for all 4 of them. Just be a little nice to fans is more comfortable than starting a new career with all risks. Like you said - Bill's only booked because he is famous. Without the band he's just one of many models. He's pretty but he hasn't the body, the age and the discipline.
DeleteSame for Tom. There are so many producers in LA and he won't get a job in Germany
Bill's latest posts seem like he finally awakened from fashionweek hype but of course it's too early to be optimistic.
Maybe they'll announce LATAM dates soon and want to calm fans down a bit
Yeah, that's the point - they are losing respect. Not only fans' respect but also in general - I know they weren't too respected back then either, they were mostly laughed at but still, what they're doing now doesn't make things any better, they're sinking lower and lower.
DeleteI think maybe they wanted to pretend that they didn't want those pictures. But it's obvious fail, everyone knows paparazzi don't follow them at all, they just don't care and somehow they always "catch" them with Shermine. Not believable at all.
You said they can produce or write for other artists too - I think they're already doing it, but, you know, not so openly. They've got company (Kaa Entertainment LLC, it's set up in LA, they've got more companies, by the way) and its area is "Independent artists, writers&performers", so I guess they can write, produce and then sell it to other people, maybe under pseudonyms (not to be recognized).
My idea about their "career" after the band is that Gustav will find another band, maybe Georg too, maybe he'll be doing something completely not related to music, he can also study (I think he's most educated and the cleverest of all of them, so he can improve), Tom can produce for others, Bill... Well, first, he can be a model for some time and kind of celebrity who just shows up at different irrelevant parties (like Shermine). But it's just a guess, suspection, no idea what they're planning to do with the band, with themselves.
Anon, yes, you also have a point. That's why everything is so blurry, just our plain speculations. Yeah, it's secure income for them, they've got two options then basically - starting a new career in show business (which most probably will appear to be a failure because of fans loss and little chances for new ones - with this kind of promo and little support of the record company) or disappear completely, doing something else, related to music or not. TH is kinda safe but their actions don't prove they care. Maybe it's because of their huge egos (we all know B&T have huge egos) and they're certain fans will pay anyway, no matter what they release, no matter how bad they will be treated. Time will tell if they've got reasons to be this certain now. And there is also another thing - fans paid for being in TH TV, it was part of the agreement. Now there is no TH TV, well, it doesn't look nice.
DeleteThis secure income is also visible and applies to their change. IMO bands are like projects, they've got cerain images, they make music in some certain genre. It's not like they can't change, but they usually do it in the area of the same genre. We can call it improvement, growth, searching for new ways, being creative (like change between Zimmer and Humanoid). I have never seen a band who changed so much, changed everything so drastically and it was change in direction of mainstream; they did it to fit to the trends, if you look at them now, they look like everyone else, they make music like everyone else. Anyway, my point is, if there is so drastic change, complete change of music genre and image, it should not be done under the same, the previous name, previous idea, project. They should have ended TH at some point in the past and start a new band with new ideas under different name, you sure know what I mean. Especially if they practically refuse to play old songs and don't want to be identified with "old TH". It's not a diss, it's how it works, it's how the other artists do. They didn't do it because with new name (which will be followed by massive loss of the fans), they will have to start from the beginning, they will lose money and everything. And there will be no certainty of success. Fans don't even like the idea of "Billy", when TH is still on, just look at the likes and follows, so no wonder what their reactions will be when there will be no TH anymore.
So yeah, there are two sides (at least) of this situation. Really hard to tell what they're going to do and what they decide, they're kinda unpredictable.
What I also noticed, doesn't seem Gustav took part in anything they recently did. He wasn't (at least wasn't tagged, but I suspect he would be and it was about the band) when they were recording BDC video, he's not with them now. Weird. (I know he's got family and daughter but plenty of people have as well and it's his work). Wonder why he doesn't want to participate.
Unfortunately I unfollowed Alex some time ago, so I can't see his pics. However, I saw Katie's posts and I also felt they finally looked like a couple. It's highly possible they married, but why would he write "gold" and not his name? They're all so strange. Could also be that they just attended a wedding, but I'm quite sure that these guys ARE a couple.
ReplyDeleteHere :)) http://s019.radikal.ru/i602/1707/cf/7b613227b377.png
DeleteFirstly I thought it's some kind of slang but after clicking on the tag, there are actually lots of pictures. There are some couples kissing/hugging or there are pics of some kind of gold jewerly (?) with "Mr and Mrs Gold". Yes, I know, they're strange, their post are weird and confusing very often. But I guess rather noone writes "wedding" without a reason, doesn't them? It's not something like "love" that can have millions of meanings. I know we can't say nothing for sure, anyway... Until we see the marriage certicate or some real proof. From what I noticed, it looks like they were there alone.
Shermine stayed in LA for a month last year, so we can already prepare for four weeks of daily drama. They scare away their loyal fans just for this woman, I don't get it. I more and more think it's only staged, especially when I see them together. There's no love, also not from her side. I just want them to go back to LA but I fear they'll wait for her and then fly over together
ReplyDeleteYes, I know. That's probably what they're planning to do. Some fans will be "OMG, they're so in love, she went with him to LA like Ria!" without realizing that her trip was planned long ago and that's what she often does and did last year as well. Sad.
DeleteInteresting, thanks! Well, Katie seems to be quite fond of Alex lately. They're together all the time, even with her family.
ReplyDeleteMaybe she posts rings!
Yep, Katie posts more often with him. But she was always like that (but didn't post so often), she was very often with twins and other places Alex was, but fans only noticed Alex... It will be good, yeah, she sometimes posts rings, but who knows which (and if) are the "ones". She posted some rings just after they came back tho.
DeleteSo according to all your comments Alex/Katie maybe got their wedding...
ReplyDelete:-)
And Girls, are You ready for the biggest dramas of the year?!?! July is here, 12th... The BIG COUNDOWN BEGAN,...
When we'll see one post... LA... Be sure it'll be dramas again and again... Don't forget to always have Popcorn and Cola near you, to feel like In a real American theater watching A REAL COMEDY!!!!!!!
Haha, joking, but if they really do that with LA,... -> that will be really the beginning of the end, I guess,...
Missy
Yes, I think unfortunately it's what we can expect from them... Everytime I hope it's over already, they come up with something new. And it's mess again. Maybe that's how they work - if it is too silent, they create a drama again. But in LA there can be a mess, yeah.
DeleteI wonder when they're going to release tour dates. I get there can be delays and everything, but, I think, they should say something about, apologize, explain themselves, the situation, whatever. Instead they act as if nothing happened and everything was ok. It's so disrespectful IMHO.
Totally agree!
DeleteSometimes you know what, I start to think they'll not be other tour parts, or maybe few dates,...
I think I'm wrong, but sometimes I have that feeling,...
But you're right -> they've to give explanation or what!
If only, that can be explained by other work (that can justified the delay), of course instead of circus comedy, we don't know about the rest (if they're maybe working on dates, or twins on book (I doubt) or other stuffs),... But have to give us explanations!!!!
Even the G's are less and less actives on their account (we got some news again or via McFitti and Bill stories), I mean, I have the feeling before it were only the Twins that seems not being interested anymore, but now the 4,...
Missy
I can't believe they're finally back. Well, drama will continue soon.
DeleteHave you seen, there's something new about the divorce, I think Ria didn't react yet.
Exactly, it would be fair and respectful to give some explanations to fans since they promised so many things but realized nothing. I think the most important thing now are the dates. I remember they said they'll be touring the whole year, and well, it's already July, they finished the first part of the tour but there is no sign of others. If they announce them this or next month, the tour will probably take place during the Autumn. And then, the year is over. I remember they also said the next album won't be released soon, which IMHO means few years or maybe even never. Maybe they're planning next break, no idea.
DeleteYes, G&G's don't seem to be interested either. They post way less and Gustav didn't even appear in those two places the whole band was. He won't be in the video, he wasn't in Munich as well.
Yep, I've seen it and I've already updated the info about divorce. Yeah, Ria didn't respond obviously but this update was because the court reviewed the case again to check its status and as appeared Tom didn't fill out the entry of default (while he should since Ria didn't answer) and now court wants to know why he didn't do it. Well, if they don't do anything, the case will stay where it is by now and in some time can be dismissed.
What's the news about the divorce?! Did Tom react/accept something?!?
DeleteAnd what if Ria doesn't react?!?!
I mean don't know about divorce in the USA....
Don't know if it same as in Europe
Missy
Nope, it's not the same but it looks a bit different in every country, even in Europe.
DeleteSo - Ria, of course, didn't react. Tom didn't react either. The one who reacted is court and they reacted because Tom was supposed to fill out the "entry of default" and send it to Ria (due to the fact she hasn't reacted) but he didn't. Now it's Tom's turn for reaction. If he doesn't, the case will stay where it is and in some time (but it's years) will be dismissed which means they won't be divorced. If he reacts and sends it to her, she'll have one month to respond, if she doesn't, the case will go Tom's way.
Thx for answering.
DeleteWell the fact that none resoond and in time it's pretty obvious no!?!
I mean, when You really want to divorce (even if here it wasn't really a "love wedding") -> YOU HURRY UP to fill and send documents!!!!!
If we didn't know about the "non-love wedding"-> sometimes we can think that no one wants to divorce...
Don't know what's happened!?!?
Really obvious!!!!! Especially if one of the two wants to marry with another person (in a short or longer future)!!! Don't know what's that other game !?!
Missy.
And talking about another topic: considering we're almost in... The 8th month of the year, I've less and less hopes for the rest of the tour.
DeleteMaybe some dates in autumn, but not the WHOLE YEAR as they promised,...
Missy
Yes, obviously, doesn't matter what was the reason of this marriage, when somebody wants to divorce, they try to do it as quickly as possible. No response and no reaction won't help certainly. I really don't know what they're playing at, why they're acting this way. It's so strange.
DeleteYep, it's been 8 months and almost 3 months after the first part is over. But I heard there are some rumors regarding Vivo Concerti and their possible concerts in Italy (!). I literally have no idea why Europe and Italy again, why no dates in Latin America (which they promised I believe). Maybe they can't find promotor there and they're in fear that not enough people will buy tickets. I don't know, but these are just rumors as for now.
Divorce is the strangest thing I've ever seen. Why does not anyone react? What does Tom expect to divorce? Ria looks happy with her new lover. I wonder if that wedding was real
ReplyDeleteSame. It's incredibly weird and strange, I have no idea about what's happening and why they're acting like this, what they're planning to do. In divorce papers Tom wrote they don't have any common property and the only thing he wanted was to deny alimony for her (and the other way around, she wouldn't have to pay him either). And no kids. It should have been over very quickly.
DeleteWell, Tom would have to fake divorce papers and lie to county clerk and court (that they were married while they weren't). It's against the law...
Admin and girls: there's a new page:
ReplyDeleteAboutfacttk -> FACTTHATTK89
The admin posted pics-> apparently Tom Has/Had relationship with a girl "Mel" since October!
She was with them in Ibiza, and Devon and Loree knows her!
She's 24 and lives in Malibu! They're some pictures on that page!
Unfortunately the account is private, I can't see anything :( How can we know he is in relationship with this girl? I mean, what kind of pictures are there? The admin proved it or just said it?
DeleteI fear it's another trick, maybe even not theirs, wonder who is the admin tho...
Sometimes it's private, sometimes no.
DeleteWell, they're some pics-> we never see the faces:
-pic from IG story: "Making music with TK" with written also "something new"-> we see just her legs near the keybord in the studio
- on April 18th: a pic in a bathroom: at Marriott in Russia-> pics of luxury products
-pics from Ibiza: June 1st: just beach view and another date with legs: boy and girl
Ans some comments like: "We're on holidays with his brother and his friends...."
A friend asked her "writing Mel" when she goes back (Malibu) she wrote "I go back on July 10 and he goes back on July 14th"
-pic of Tattoo-> we see hands with on one T and the other one R (admin wrote R is for her mother: Rhonda)
And some comments like: "Capper miss your booty..."
The big thing is with he dates from return to LA! As Bill posted on 14th they're on the way back to LA
And 2 pics of Berlin: one of a graffiti wall and one during a walk near a tourist boat
What do you think his real gf?!?! Another trick
Because we cannot see the dates -> admin hide it! But from 2/3 dates we can see a little bit -> it's like 20/29 M
From comments from Ibiza. I mean: if the screenshot were taken later -> it'll be written in "Days"
Thanks for the info! I don't know, I would have to see it. Have you taken screenshots maybe? Because it's still private and this person doesn't accept the requests... It can be a trick, but I doubt that it's caused by TH this time (they have another patterns and ways of tricking us, but we never can be sure) but by some fans. Well, I have doubts since things like that happened many times in the past. Fans were making up some stories, photoshoping pictures of Bill/Tom with girlfriends, sometimes they even pretened they are their girlfriends or friends, they know the "inside stories", they had asks/IGs/facebook accounts. I've seen plenty of it so that's why I it's a bit doubtful. Especially if, as you say, the admin covers the dates and faces are not visible. What do you mean with comments from Ibiza and that it will be written "days"?
DeleteI can sent you the pics!
DeleteAnd saw on the screenshot from the walk "where the twins were too in LA"-> it's written in secondes!!! That mean: the screenshot was just posted and then a pic was taken!
So the admin is the girl or such a coincidence the admin took DIRECTLY a screenshot when the pic was posted!
And with the comments-> I mean: the dates of comment are written in minutes: for exemplar: if the comments were older-> it'll be written For example: 6 DAYS! But it's always like: 20 or 30 MINUTES-> as comments were just posted and then a screenshot was made!
Admin told follows her -> he follows no MEL -> just one with 2 accounts which didn't post since time!!!!
And she told about Loree rodkin knowing her-> she just follows a "Melanie Hamel" but the account is private!
Maybe that's her.
And so, why neither Natalie or Andy follows the girl !?!
I sent you pics: tell me your opinion.
Because the dates (Ibiza, return of twins in LA) are good or if it's a trick -> some can yeah make Photoshopping
DeleteSent you the pics
They are selling their house in LA? It's listed on a lot of agencys "for sale".
DeleteHi girls. I wonder why there is no post from you ? No signs from you ? anonimito what happens with your blog ?
DeleteEllen
So we reached the next level of drama. LA will be "fun", I bet we'll get hints every day now. I'm just glad Bill was at Roland Emmerich's wedding too. But we can expect many events with the "couple" alone and I hate it. Well, we had one week of peace. This is getting more annoying every day and the tour will just be "Shermine festival". What did we do to deserve this woman? I'm so fed up.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think about the new pics at the party? I hate her so much. She has that smile of a woman who knows she won the war about a guy. Tom seems like a little boy who only wants to please her. I'm so upset. I didn't believe the thing but these snapshots aren't set up. Tom seems also to completely adore this girl. He changed so much. I'm so full of aggression, I don't want to go on like that but I don't wanna leave because of this slut. Tom fucked up everything.
ReplyDeleteDid you see the photo of shermine and tom together at the wedding? I don't know what to say about...
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